Author: Amir Ban
Date: 02:55:39 04/19/02
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On April 19, 2002 at 00:35:52, Uri Blass wrote: >On April 18, 2002 at 21:40:18, Slater Wold wrote: > >>On April 18, 2002 at 20:31:24, Vine Smith wrote: >> >>>On April 18, 2002 at 19:52:25, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote: >>> >>>>Rex, >>>> >>>>You might be correct Sir. However, Smirin is playing drawish chess. >>>>Nevertheless, Tiger can certainly kick my butt. >>>> >>>>Tim, a satisfied Tiger 14.0 owner >>>> >>>>On April 18, 2002 at 19:42:42, Rex wrote: >>>> >>>>>Tiger is the only program the GM's hope to keep up with. >>> >>>"Smirin is playing drawish chess"?! You've got to be kidding! There was nothing >>>drawish about the drastic defeat he inflicted on Shredder, and he certainly was >>>not to blame for Hiarcs' choice of the Exchange Variation of the King's Indian >>>in the second game (where he got a much better position anyway). And Junior must >>>be running on a lucky processor to have escaped losing a piece down versus >>>Smirin in the last game. If it weren't for the truncated time control, Smirin >>>could be leading 3-0. >>>Nonetheless, Tiger may present some new problems. Not only its "anti-human" >>>setting, but also the book, both work together to avoid closed positions. When a >>>couple of Argentine GMs tried to get away with the Old Benoni last year, Tiger >>>just played 5.f4 (or at move 6, I can't exactly remember) and reopened the >>>position, winning both times. The f4 move wasn't objectively best according to >>>theory, but it was best for a program playing a human, and this is the kind of >>>approach needed against Smirin, who obviously knows a few things about typical >>>program weaknesses. >>> >>>Regards, >>>Vine Smith >> >>If Christophe or Ed, or even Noomen has a hand in this, the book will be 100x >>better than what we've seen thus far. > >I guess that they are going to have hands in the book in the tiger's games. >I also think that the mistakes that the programs did were after book. > >I also think that the quality of the engines is more important than the book. > >> >>CT will be a tough opponent. But it does share it's fair chance of losing. >>Depends on the opening, but I'd guess (if Smirin knows anything about CT) it'll >>be drawn. > >If christophe changed CT enough then smirin may know nothing about it. > Smirin doesn't take much interest in the difference between programs and calls them collectively "the computer". Likewise, Junior is not interested in the difference between humans :) Amir
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