Author: Slater Wold
Date: 05:45:35 04/19/02
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On April 19, 2002 at 05:55:39, Amir Ban wrote: >On April 19, 2002 at 00:35:52, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On April 18, 2002 at 21:40:18, Slater Wold wrote: >> >>>On April 18, 2002 at 20:31:24, Vine Smith wrote: >>> >>>>On April 18, 2002 at 19:52:25, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote: >>>> >>>>>Rex, >>>>> >>>>>You might be correct Sir. However, Smirin is playing drawish chess. >>>>>Nevertheless, Tiger can certainly kick my butt. >>>>> >>>>>Tim, a satisfied Tiger 14.0 owner >>>>> >>>>>On April 18, 2002 at 19:42:42, Rex wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Tiger is the only program the GM's hope to keep up with. >>>> >>>>"Smirin is playing drawish chess"?! You've got to be kidding! There was nothing >>>>drawish about the drastic defeat he inflicted on Shredder, and he certainly was >>>>not to blame for Hiarcs' choice of the Exchange Variation of the King's Indian >>>>in the second game (where he got a much better position anyway). And Junior must >>>>be running on a lucky processor to have escaped losing a piece down versus >>>>Smirin in the last game. If it weren't for the truncated time control, Smirin >>>>could be leading 3-0. >>>>Nonetheless, Tiger may present some new problems. Not only its "anti-human" >>>>setting, but also the book, both work together to avoid closed positions. When a >>>>couple of Argentine GMs tried to get away with the Old Benoni last year, Tiger >>>>just played 5.f4 (or at move 6, I can't exactly remember) and reopened the >>>>position, winning both times. The f4 move wasn't objectively best according to >>>>theory, but it was best for a program playing a human, and this is the kind of >>>>approach needed against Smirin, who obviously knows a few things about typical >>>>program weaknesses. >>>> >>>>Regards, >>>>Vine Smith >>> >>>If Christophe or Ed, or even Noomen has a hand in this, the book will be 100x >>>better than what we've seen thus far. >> >>I guess that they are going to have hands in the book in the tiger's games. >>I also think that the mistakes that the programs did were after book. >> >>I also think that the quality of the engines is more important than the book. >> >>> >>>CT will be a tough opponent. But it does share it's fair chance of losing. >>>Depends on the opening, but I'd guess (if Smirin knows anything about CT) it'll >>>be drawn. >> >>If christophe changed CT enough then smirin may know nothing about it. >> > >Smirin doesn't take much interest in the difference between programs and calls >them collectively "the computer". > >Likewise, Junior is not interested in the difference between humans :) > >Amir Good point. What does Junior call them? "The patzer"? ;)
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