Author: Amir Ban
Date: 12:53:35 07/19/98
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On July 19, 1998 at 13:50:20, Fernando Villegas wrote: >As is very usual with all your post not directly referred with programming, >Bruce, yours commenting mine about piracy is full and tainted with a hard, >solemn, harsh style very unpleasant to read. I am somewhat bored to read your >post delivered almost always as made in your own Sinai mount, with God at your >side. The tone, Bruce, with which you tend to post here is too much arrogant, as >coming from the TRUTH that you have directly from Divine sources. I must confess >that is difficult to hold that with calm and even more to think that a guy like >you, so prone to deligitimate positions of other people, is a "moderator". >I say all this because your words about my post suggest I am trying to give >reasons fort stealing programs, and so, you are saying bluntly that I am >dishonest and trying to get support from the rest of the people here for my >actions. By the way, I think dishonesty tends to be a lot nearer the solemn guys >that pontificate about moral. All I did was to do some reasonning about the >differents conditions that surround the adquisition of software, the realities >that surround that activity. You can qualify as you wish people, but with that >you don't go a simple step towards understanding. To say of insinuate that a guy >that receives an old software given to him as a gift is Always a kind of burgler >is something that goes beyond common sense. When you are a guy -as I am- that >expend hundreds of dollars each year supporting this industry , then to become a >thief because I have got -yes, I did, prepare your fire platoon, sir- one >program for free, from a dear friends of mine that, as me, expend a lot of >money, seems to me to be sheer nonsense. Yes, I got sargon V for free, a >pirated copy to be sure. I have bought, only this year, no less that six chess >softwares, but according to your criteria I am a thief, no matter that you >cannot get sargon V in the market anyway. Piracy, as anything else, is a matter >of grades, conditions, shades. Even a child understand that. You just cannot >come here to stablish an absolute truth and then to qualify nobody with your >private parameters. Now, sir, do what you want with the "power" you have as >moderator, although I expect from you something higher and better. >Fernando You were making a moral or legal argument, and Bruce was debating your points in the spirit that you were making them. He was critical of your arguments, but I don't think he was accusing you of anything, even indirectly. I am guessing that Bruce is right on the legal side, but that doesn't mean that anyone would take the trouble to take to court someone who receives illegal copies, and even if that happen, it would probably end with a $20 fine. You were arguing that something that something that some apparent violations of copyright are actually morally ok, or should be ignored. It's like making an argument that using soft drugs is ok, or advocating that the law ignore this. This is a valid point of view. The answer you got was that it's not such a negligible thing like you think it is. Another valid point of view. You are reacting as if you've been accused of being the Colombian cocaine lord. Bruce is a moderator, but he can post here just like anyone else. He is not using any special privileges, and anyone can write what he did. The sentence were you invite him to do his worst to you as a moderator I must say that I strongly dislike, and since in my opinion Bruce did nothing to provoke this, I consider this to be insulting. I understand that you don't like Bruce's style, and that may be so. I admit that I don't like the style of 100% of the posters here, and I'm sure there are people who don't like my style, but you don't catch people here throwing unflattering views of each other's style in their face (well, not all the time, anyway :)). I'm sure you too Fernando, if you heard this in face-to-face conversation you would consider this rude. Amir
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