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Subject: Re: Test Position (for computers or strong players) -- Can White Draw?

Author: John Merlino

Date: 13:08:23 04/19/02

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On April 19, 2002 at 15:39:39, Terry McCracken wrote:

>On April 19, 2002 at 14:07:13, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>This position came up in a game between myself and a friend:
>>
>>[D]6k1/5R2/7P/6K1/8/8/p5P1/6r1 w - - 0 1
>>
>>The question is: can White draw (after 1.h7+ Kxf7 2.h8=Q a1=Q)?
>>
>>Chessmaster says this, but I suspect that the eval is simply because of the
>>difference in material (not the steadily dropping score):
>>
>>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>>0:00	2/3	-2.25	978		1.Ra7 a1=Q 2.h7+ Kh8 3.Rxa1 Rxa1
>>0:00	3/4	-2.25	2266		1.Ra7 a1=Q 2.h7+ Kh8 3.Rxa1 Rxa1
>>0:00	4/5	-2.63	6103		1.Ra7 a1=Q 2.Rxa1 Rxa1 3.g4 Ra5+
>>					4.Kg6 Ra6+ 5.Kg5
>>0:00	4/5	-2.60	7857		1.Rg7+ Kh8 2.Ra7 a1=Q 3.Rxa1 Rxa1
>>					4.g4 Kh7
>>0:00	5/6	-2.60	16712		1.Rg7+ Kh8 2.Ra7 a1=Q 3.Rxa1 Rxa1
>>					4.g4 Kh7
>>0:00	6/7	-4.04	45865		1.Rg7+ Kh8 2.Ra7 a1=Q 3.Rxa1 Rxa1
>>					4.Kg6 Rg1 5.Kf5 Rxg2
>>0:01	7/8	-4.66	145818		1.Rg7+ Kh8 2.Ra7 a1=Q 3.Rxa1 Rxa1
>>					4.g4 Kh7 5.Kf4 Ra4+ 6.Kf5 Ra5+
>>					7.Kf6 Kxh6
>>0:02	7/8	-4.01	229288		1.h7+ Kxf7 2.h8=Q a1=Q 3.Qh5+ Kf8
>>					4.Qf3+ Ke7 5.Qe4+ Kd6 6.Qg6+ Kc5
>>					7.Qf5+ Kc4 8.g4
>>0:04	8/9	-4.02	414062		1.h7+ Kxf7 2.h8=Q a1=Q 3.Qh5+ Kf8
>>					4.Qf3+ Ke7 5.Qe4+ Kd6 6.Qg6+ Kc5
>>					7.Qf5+ Kd4 8.Qg4+ Kd5 9.Kh4
>>0:09	9/10	-3.93	898261		1.h7+ Kxf7 2.h8=Q a1=Q 3.Qh5+ Kf8
>>					4.Qf3+ Ke7 5.Qe4+ Kd6 6.Qg6+ Kc5
>>					7.Qf5+ Kd4 8.Qf6+ Kd3 9.Qg6+ Kc4
>>					10.g4
>>0:20	10/11	-3.76	2026714		1.h7+ Kxf7 2.h8=Q a1=Q 3.Qh5+ Kf8
>>					4.Qf3+ Ke7 5.Qe4+ Kd6 6.Qg6+ Kc5
>>					7.Qf5+ Kc6 8.Qe6+ Kc7 9.Qf7+ Kc8
>>					10.Qf8+ Kb7 11.Qf7+ Kb6
>>0:49	11/12	-3.63	4752637		1.h7+ Kxf7 2.h8=Q a1=Q 3.Qh5+ Kf8
>>					4.Qf3+ Ke7 5.Qe4+ Kd6 6.Qg6+ Kc5
>>					7.Qf5+ Kc6 8.Qe6+ Kc7 9.Qf7+ Kc8
>>					10.Qe6+ Kb7 11.Qd7+ Ka6 12.Qd5
>>1:39	12/13	-3.53	10149051	1.h7+ Kxf7 2.h8=Q a1=Q 3.Qh5+ Kf8
>>					4.Qf3+ Ke7 5.Qe4+ Kd6 6.Qg6+ Kc5
>>					7.Qf5+ Kc6 8.Qe6+ Kc7 9.Qf7+ Kc8
>>					10.Qf8+ Kb7 11.Qe7+ Kb8 12.Qd8+
>>					Ka7 13.Qc7+ Ka6
>>4:01	13/14	-3.42	25036829	1.h7+ Kxf7 2.h8=Q a1=Q 3.Qh5+ Kf8
>>					4.Qf3+ Ke7 5.Qe4+ Kd6 6.Qg6+ Kc5
>>					7.Qf5+ Kc6 8.Qe6+ Kc7 9.Qf7+ Kb6
>>					10.Qe6+ Kb5 11.Qd5+ Kb4 12.Qe4+
>>					Kc3 13.Qe5+ Kc2 14.Qd5
>>7:53	14/15	-3.35	50033731	1.h7+ Kxf7 2.h8=Q a1=Q 3.Qh5+ Kf8
>>					4.Qf3+ Ke7 5.Qe4+ Kd6 6.Qg6+ Kc5
>>					7.Qf5+ Kc6 8.Qe6+ Kc7 9.Qf7+ Kc8
>>					10.Qf8+ Kb7 11.Qf7+ Kb6 12.Qg6+
>>					Kb5 13.Qd3+ Kc6 14.Qg6+ Kd5 15.Kf4
>>
>>jm
>
>I'm just curious John, who had the White pieces and how did the game end?
>Did White get a draw, or let it slip away into a loss?
>
>There is no question about it that 1.h7+!! is not only the "Best" move but a
>"Forced" move as well.
>
>Everthing else loses quikly!
>
>Terry

White resigned in this position. I was Black. This should show you the quality
of our play here at the CM offices. ;-)

jm



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