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Subject: Re: Supercomputer smashes world speed record

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:13:09 04/19/02

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On April 19, 2002 at 18:19:34, J. Wesley Cleveland wrote:

>On April 19, 2002 at 16:09:01, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On April 19, 2002 at 02:20:45, Michael Williams wrote:
>>
>>>On April 18, 2002 at 21:46:43, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 18, 2002 at 16:33:55, Martin Andersen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 18, 2002 at 16:10:02, Sally Weltrop wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>A Japanese machine records the fastest "floating point" calculation
>>>>>>speed - over 35 trillion calculations per second. This is five times
>>>>>>faster than the previous record holder, IBM's ASCI White system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.processrequest.com/apps/redir.asp?link=XbddafaeBG
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm no expert, but I don't think chess programs use floating
>>>>>point calculations.
>>>>>
>>>>>Martin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Only because on PC machines, integer math is faster.  If FP was faster,
>>>>we'd all be using that.  On some machines, it is faster..
>>>
>>>Would you be so kind as to elaborate on this (fp)?
>>>I'd really appreciate it, and I'm also pretty ignorant on such matters.
>>>Thanks in advance.
>>
>>Not sure what you mean.  Floating Point (FP) is a different way of representing
>>numbers so that you get an exponent thrown in so that very large/small numbers
>>can be represented, while with integers everything is in units of 1...
>>
>>Most machines do FP in a separate pipeline which means that some FP can proceed
>>concurrently with other integer operations, which can make using them faster
>>than doing purely integer calculations.
>
>Speaking of this, did you consider using doubles for node counters in crafty
>instead of 64 bit ints? My tests show it is faster on x86, and would have solved
>all those problems about declaring and formatting 64 bit ints.


I probably will at some point.  I did this once a long while back and got
lots of complaints as a "few" were using cpus without FPU enabled and that
would wreck everything...

I don't know that there are any 486 boxes still running now, however...



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