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Subject: Re: Can your program find the correct move for black ? ( Good move by Ed

Author: Tony Werten

Date: 12:13:55 04/20/02

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On April 20, 2002 at 07:08:47, Terry Ripple wrote:

>On April 20, 2002 at 06:54:19, Terry Ripple wrote:
>
>>On April 20, 2002 at 03:54:46, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>On April 19, 2002 at 17:57:46, Terry Ripple wrote:
>>>
>>>>This position is taken from an actual game: "Tseshkovsky vs Prokopchuk" (1995)
>>>>
>>>>[D]rn1qkb1r/ppp1pppp/8/3n4/2B3b1/2P2N2/PP1P1PPP/RNBQK2R b KQkq - 0 1
>>>>
>>>>1)e4 d5 2)exd5 Nf6 3)Bb5+ Bd7 4)Bc4 Bg4 5)Nf3 Nxd5 6)c3!? >Black has to be -
>>>>extremely careful with his next move! 6)...c6 Black's best! Other moves fall
>>>>foul to White's cunning 6)c3:
>>>>
>>>>a)6)...Nb6? and 6...Nf6? both run into 7.Bxf7+ Kxf7 8.Ne5+.
>>>>
>>>>b)6)...e6? 7.Qa4+ Qd7 [or 7...c6? 8.Bxd5 and 9.Qxg4] 8.Bb5 c6 9.Bxc6 Nxc6 -
>>>>  10.Qxg4 and White has an extra pawn. (Note: Rebel Tiger 14 chooses e6?)
>>>>
>>>>( Does Tiger believe that it has enough compensation for the pawn?)
>>>
>>>
>>>>c)...Nxc6?! 7.Qb3 Bxf3 [7...Na5 8.Qa4+ c6 9.Bxd5 wins!] 8.Qxb7! Nb6 [8...Na5?-
>>>>  9.Bb5+ c6 10.Bxc6+ Nxc6 11.Qxc6+ Qd7 12.Qxa8+] 9.gxf3 Ne5 10.Bb5+ Ned7 11.d4,
>>>>    again with a healthy pawn advantage.
>>>
>>>What about 6..Nc6 7.Qb3 Bxf3 8.Qxb7 Ndb4!
>>>
>>>Is 8.Qxb7 really that good?
>>
>>Hello Ed,
>>    It looks like 8.Qxb7 is refuted by 8...Ndb4! "Grandmaster John Emms"
>>--apparently missed this interesting move! I can't find anything wrong with it,
>>and in fact the black pieces are now looking better!
>
>Ed, i would like to say that in the line 6...Nc6?!, perhaps this move should get
>the same merit as in the line 6...c6! It looks like after 6...Nc6 7.Qb3 Bxf3
>that White should play 8.gxf3 instead of 8.Qxb7 to be on the safe side!

It's one of the lines XiniX gives. But since it seems to be switching between
all of the alternatives, I don't know what it's worth.

ply:10/16 score:0,000 time:250s  20Kn/s
1. . . Nc6 2.Qb3 Bxf3 3.gxf3 Na5 4.Qa4+ Nc6 5.Qb3 Na5 6.Qa4+ Nc6 7.Qb3 Na5

Tony

>>
>>Thanks for your input!
>>Best Regards,
>>           Terry
>>>
>>>00:00:05.1	1,61	11	2139251	Ndb4 cxb4 Rb8 Qa6 Bxg2 Rg1 Nxb4 Bb5+
>>>00:00:08.6	1,76	12	4495124	Ndb4 cxb4 Rb8 Qa6 Bxg2 Rg1 Nxb4 Qa4+
>>>00:00:15.7	1,67	13	9604503	Ndb4 cxb4 Rb8 Qa6 Bxg2 Rg1 Nxb4 Qa4+
>>>00:00:32.1	1,74	14	21309858	Ndb4 cxb4 Rb8 Qa6 Bxg2 Rg1 Nxb4 Qa4+
>>>00:01:08.6	1,85	15	47353173	Ndb4 cxb4 Rb8 Qa6 Bxg2 Rg1 Nxb4 Qxa7
>>>00:02:47.0	1,84	16	121282451	Ndb4 cxb4 Rb8 Qa6 Bxg2
>>>
>>>As in the game Rebel will play 6..c6 (after 7 minutes), before that it had
>>>6..Nc6 all the time.
>>>
>>>Ed
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>d)6)...g6?! 7.Qb3 Bxf3 8.gxf3 and the b-pawn drops!
>>>>
>>>>From the actual game after White's move 6)c3 follows 6...c6 7.d4 e6 8.Nbd2 Nd7
>>>>  9.h3 Bf5 10.0-0 Be7 11.Re1 0-0 12.Ne4 Qc7 13.Bd3 b5 14.Bd2 Bg6 15.Qb1 Rab8
>>>> 16.Neg5 Bxd3 17.Qxd3 Bxg5 18.Nxg5 N7f6 19.a4 a6 [Not 19...bxa4?! 20.c4 Ne7 -
>>>> 21.Bc3, when the a4-pawn would soon drop!] 20.Ne4 Nxe4 21.Rxe4 Rbd8 -
>>>> 22.Bg5 Rd7 23.axb5 axb5 24.Qf3 Ne7 25.Bf4 Qb7 26.h4! Rd5 27.h5 Rf5 28.Qg4 g6
>>>> 29.hxg6 hxg6 30.Be5?( best Bd6!)30...Rh5! 31.Qf3? (31.Bf6,playing on the weak-
>>>>   dark squares, would have been more effective!) 31...f5! 32.Ree1 Nd5 --
>>>> 33.Bd6 Re8 34.Qg3 Qh7 35.f3 g5 36.Be5 f4 37.Bxf4 Nxf4 38.Re5 Rh1+ 39.Kf2 Qc2+
>>>>   and Black wins!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Terry



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