Author: Peter Kasinski
Date: 08:01:54 07/20/98
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On July 20, 1998 at 09:08:47, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >On July 19, 1998 at 20:30:43, Bruce Moreland wrote: > >> >>On July 19, 1998 at 13:50:20, Fernando Villegas wrote: >> >>>To say of insinuate that a guy >>>that receives an old software given to him as a gift is Always a kind of burgler >>>is something that goes beyond common sense. When you are a guy -as I am- that >>>expend hundreds of dollars each year supporting this industry , then to become a >>>thief because I have got -yes, I did, prepare your fire platoon, sir- one >>>program for free, from a dear friends of mine that, as me, expend a lot of >>>money, seems to me to be sheer nonsense. >> >>This is an interesting argument. Do you really expect that you could go down to >>the grocery store and tell them that because you had actually paid for your >>groceries for the past week or month or year or whatever, that you have the >>right to walk out of the store without paying this time? >> >>You will have the cops following you for sure if you do this. >> >>The only way someone will make this argument in any normal circumstance is under >>their breath as they walk out of the store with the thing under their coat. > >All this is a lousy analogy. What you steal from a grocery shop can not be sold >to a customer and the owner is hurt. Copying a program you don’t find >interesting enough to buy or you want to check before buying damages no one. >That’s what shareware is all about. When you break a license agreement you are violating a law. Whether you find that product "interesting" or not. Shareware specifically allows you to copy programs, no one is questioning that. > >>I don't see why you are upset at me for telling you that you are rationalizing. >>This is very obviously what you are doing. > >I don’t think Fernando is rationalizing. The issue of being honest/dishonest is >complex and to a great extent personal, in computer chess and anywhere else. > >About honesty in CC: it is true that pirating may damage producers, and to this >extent I am against it. On the other hand, why talking only about the dishonesty >of pirates and not about the marketing impositions of releasing a new version >every year, no matter if it’s an improvement or not, buggy or not. Buying a new >program is often like buying a sealed book. > >And do you really believe manufacturers never get or pass pirated copies of >someone else's programs, operating systems, whole collections of games? > >I am certainly not advocating piracy, but these issues are personal and complex >enough to avoid rigid morals holier than Thou. > >Enrique > >>bruce Bruce was making rather obvious observations. His style notwithstanding they are pretty objective and not personal. I do however think that your reactions are. PK.
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