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Subject: Re: Yet Another end-game position that shredder doesnt understand

Author: Christophe Theron

Date: 21:20:59 04/20/02

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Why don't you post in PGN? I cannot read the format you are using. It's not
standard.



    Christophe




On April 20, 2002 at 20:34:27, pavel wrote:

>In this game Shredder was evaluating white to be around  -2.5 (or more) pawns
>down at the endgame. Crafty evaluated itself -0.1 pawn down.
>
>the game ended in a draw.
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>Crafty 18.14 (2500) - Shredder 6.02 (2500) [D11]
>PAVS, 40'/40+40'/40+40' PAVS (1), 20.04.2002
>
>W=14.2 ply; 318kN/s; 2,192,796 TBAs
>B=13.5 ply; 163kN/s; 10,663,345 TBAs
> 1.d4 d5 2.c4 c6 3.Nf3 dxc4 4.e3 b5 5.a4 e6 6.axb5 cxb5 7.b3 Bb4+ 8.Bd2 Bxd2+
>9.Nbxd2 a5 10.bxc4 b4 11.Bd3 Nf6 12.Ne5 Both last book move 12...Bb7  0.96/13
>2:43  13.0-0  -0.33/11  1:26  Nc6 (0-0)  -0.09/12  1:51  14.f4 (Ndf3)  -0.23/12
>1:26  14...0-0  -0.13/12  58  15.Bc2 (Nb3)  -0.11/11  1:27  15...Qc7 (Nxe5)
>-0.16/11  1:32  16.Rc1 (c5)  -0.15/11  1:26  16...Ne7 (Nxe5)  -0.58/12  1:25
>17.Re1 (Ra1)  -0.17/12  1:26  17...Rfc8 (Nd7)  -0.62/12  1:34  18.c5 (Ba4)
>0.00/12  1:25  18...Ned5  -0.70/13  1:18  19.Nb1 (Ndc4)  -0.08/12  1:25
>19...Bc6 (Rcb8)  -0.72/13  1:15  20.Nxc6  -0.03/13  2:00  Qxc6  -0.73/14  37
>21.Ba4  0.00/14  1:23  Qa6 (Qc7)  -0.70/13  42  22.Qf3  0.30/12  1:23  Qd3 (Qa7)
> -0.80/12  28  23.Bc2 (Rcd1)  -0.15/11  1:37  23...Qb5  -0.93/11  10  24.e4
>(Nd2)  -0.43/12  1:23  24...Ne7 (Nc7)  -1.00/13  1:26  25.e5  -0.32/12  2:32
>Nfd5  -0.88/12  48  26.f5 (Nd2)  -0.31/12  1:18  26...exf5 (Qc6)  -0.93/13  3:21
> 27.e6  -0.17/12  1:18  Rd8 (fxe6)  -0.42/11  1:49  28.Bxf5 (exf7+)  0.15/10
>2:36  28...Nxf5  -0.68/12  2:30  29.exf7+  0.12/10  1:11  Kxf7  -0.26/13  2:45
>30.Qxf5+  0.12/10  23  Nf6  -0.43/12  1:11  31.Nd2 (Re6)  0.01/10  1:18
>31...Qd7  -0.91/12  41  32.Qxd7+  -0.14/11  1:16  Rxd7  -0.44/14  1:00  33.Nc4
>0.09/11  1:34  Rxd4 (Rc7)  -0.24/13  1:22  34.c6  0.16/12  1:13  Rc8  -0.16/13
>2:05  35.Red1 (c7)  0.24/11  1:52  35...Rxd1+  -0.48/13  40  36.Rxd1  0.10/13
>22  Ke7 (Rc7)  -0.47/14  1:06  37.Nxa5  0.12/13  1:15  Ke6  -0.43/13  55  38.Rc1
>(Nb7)  0.00/12  1:16  38...Kd6 (Nd5)  -0.95/13  51  39.Nb7+  -0.12/12  1:15  Kc7
> -0.97/14  29  40.Nc5 (Rc4)  -0.12/13  38  40...Nd5 (Kb6)  -0.73/14  54  41.Rc4
>-0.06/13  1:01  Kd6 (Ra8)  -0.72/13  1:02  42.Nb7+  0.00/13  1:00  Kc7 (Ke5)
>-0.80/13  49  43.Nc5  -0.06/13  1:02  Ra8  -0.97/14  1:17  44.Ne6+  -0.11/13
>1:01  Kd6  -0.40/14  4:23  45.Nd4  -0.12/13  1:02  Rb8  -0.34/13  1:07  46.Rc2
>(c7)  -0.10/13  1:00  46...Nc3  -0.96/12  55  47.Rd2 (c7)  -0.27/13  1:01
>47...g6 (Rc8)  -1.07/12  56  48.h3 (Rb2)  -0.07/11  1:04  48...h6 (Rc8)
>-1.09/12  1:06  49.Kf1 (Rb2)  -0.11/12  1:00  49...Nd5  -1.21/12  45  50.Ke2
>(Re2)  -0.27/12  1:00  50...Re8+ (Kc5)  -0.72/13  1:50  51.Kf3 (Kd3)  -0.20/13
>1:00  51...Nc7  -0.62/13  1:47  52.Rc2  -0.28/13  1:04  Kd5  -0.86/14  50
>53.Nb3  -0.41/13  1:00  Ne6  -0.76/14  58  54.Kf2  -0.47/12  1:03  Ra8 (Rc8)
>-0.90/13  51  55.h4 (Ke1)  -0.62/12  1:01  55...g5 (Ra3)  -0.89/13  1:05
>56.hxg5  -0.46/12  1:01  hxg5  -0.81/14  1:44  57.g3 (g4)  -0.47/13  1:00
>57...Rf8+ (Ra7)  -0.95/12  42  58.Kg2  -0.23/13  1:00  Rc8  -0.94/13  46  59.Na5
> -0.41/13  1:00  Ra8 (Rc7)  -1.02/13  49  60.Ra2 (Nb3)  -0.41/13  1:00  60...Ra7
> -1.28/12  19  61.Kh3 (Rd2+)  -0.36/11  1:06  61...Nd4  -0.94/12  53  62.Kg4
>(Ra1)  0.00/12  1:00  62...Ke4 (Rh7)  -0.50/11  2:42  63.Ra1 (Rb2)  0.00/13
>1:00  63...Ne6 (Kd5)  -0.21/10  57  64.Re1+ (c7)  0.00/13  1:00  64...Kd5
>-0.16/12  47  65.Ra1 (Rd1+)  0.00/13  1:00  65...Ra6 (Ke4)  -0.24/12  36  66.Ra2
> 0.00/13  1:01  Ra7 (Ke4)  -0.20/13  55  67.Ra1  0.00/14  1:06  Ra8 (Rc7)
>-0.21/12  37  68.Rd1+ (Kf5)  0.00/14  59  68...Kc5  -0.13/14  46  69.Rc1+
>0.00/13  59  Kb6 (Kd5)  -0.13/14  1:17  70.c7  0.00/13  59  Nxc7  -0.20/13  35
>71.Nc4+  0.00/12  59  Kc6 (Kb5)  -0.21/13  57  72.Ne5+  0.00/13  59  Kd6 (Kd5)
>-0.21/13  43  73.Nf7+ (Nd3)  0.00/14  1:05  73...Kd7  -0.18/14  32  74.Ne5+
>0.00/14  1:00  Ke6 (Kd6)  -0.01/14  1:34  75.Nd3  0.00/14  58  Nd5  -0.20/13  48
> 76.Rc6+ (Re1+)  0.00/13  57  76...Ke7 (Kd7)  -0.16/12  31  77.Rc5  -0.01/13  57
> Nf6+  -0.15/11  21  78.Kf5  -0.01/14  57  Rb8 (Nd7)  -0.15/11  18  79.Rc7+
>(Ra5)  0.00/14  58  79...Kd6  -0.19/12  14  80.Ra7  0.00/14  28  Nd7  -0.20/11
>15  81.Nxb4 (Ra6+)  -0.01/14  1:18  81...Rb5+ (Rxb4)  -0.21/15  50  82.Kg6
>-0.01/15  1:07  Ne5+ (Rxb4)  -0.16/15  1:08  83.Kf6  -0.01/15  1:05  Nd7+ (Rxb4)
> -0.16/15  1:34  84.Kg6  -0.01/15  21  Rxb4  -0.39/15  1:24  85.Kxg5 (Ra6+)
>-0.01/14  21  85...Rb5+ (Rb3)  -0.10/14  44  86.Kh6  -0.01/15  1:02  Rb6 (Rb3)
>-0.04/15  48  87.Ra2 (g4)  -0.01/14  1:00  87...Kd5+ (Rb3)  -0.11/12  48  88.Kg7
> -0.01/15  58  Ne5 (Rb3)  -0.05/12  51  89.Ra5+ (g4)  -0.01/11  59  89...Ke4
>(Kd4)  -0.09/13  25  90.Ra4+ (g4)  -0.01/14  55  90...Kf5 (Kd3)  -0.55/11  9
>91.Rf4+ (Kf8)  -0.01/15  53  91...Kg5  -0.57/11  8  92.Re4 (Rf1)  -0.01/15  52
>92...Rg6+  -0.60/13  34  93.Kh8 (Kh7)  -0.01/15  50  93...Ra6 (Kf5)  -2.66/15
>51  94.Kg8 (Kg7)  -0.01/15  49  94...Ra8+  -2.66/12  29  95.Kg7  -0.01/15  48
>Ra7+  -0.61/14  2:07  96.Kf8  -0.01/15  46  Ng6+  -0.60/14  35  97.Ke8  -0.01/15
> 45  Kf6 (Ra3)  -0.52/14  1:21  98.Rd4 (g4)  -0.01/14  43  98...Ne5 (Ra3)
>-0.56/13  43  99.Rd6+  -0.01/15  42  Kg5 (Kf5)  -0.44/16  39  100.Rd8 (Rd5)
>-0.01/15  41  100...Ra6 (Kg4)  -0.61/13  37  101.Rd5  -0.01/15  40  Kf6 (Re6+)
>-0.59/13  33  102.Kd8 (Rd2)  -0.01/14  39  102...Ke6 (Ra3)  -0.74/13  33
>103.Rd2 (Rd1)  -0.01/14  38  103...Ra8+ (Ra5)  -0.68/12  25  104.Kc7  -0.01/4  0
> Ra7+ (Ra3)  -0.63/12  43  105.Kd8 (Kb6)  -0.01/14  36  105...Nf7+ (Ra5)
>-3.53/13  24  106.Kc8  -0.01/14  35  Nd6+ (Ra8+)  -1.14/14  24  107.Kb8
>-0.01/14  35  Rb7+ (Rg7)  -0.86/14  32  108.Ka8  0.00/4  0  Rg7 (Rb6)  -0.90/14
>42  109.Rd3 (g4)  -0.01/14  33  109...Kd7 (Rg8+)  -4.49/14  45  110.Kb8
>-0.01/14  33  Rg4 (Rg8+)  -0.83/13  2:15  111.Ka7 (Re3)  -0.01/14  32  111...Kc6
>(Rg8)  -1.89/11  19  112.Rc3+  -0.01/14  31  Kd5 (Nc4)  -1.11/13  32  113.Rd3+
>-0.01/14  30  Kc5  -2.15/13  59  114.Rc3+ (Kb8)  -0.01/14  29  114...Kd4 (Kb4)
>-2.22/12  12  115.Rc6 (Rc1)  -0.01/14  28  115...Ne4 (Rxg3)  -2.59/12  31
>116.Rc8 (Rc7)  -0.01/14  28  116...Ke3 (Nxg3)  -2.59/11  19  117.Rh8 (Rd8)
>-0.01/14  27  117...Kf2 (Nxg3)  -2.82/10  22  118.Rf8+ (Ka8)  -0.01/15  26
>118...Kg2 (Kxg3)  -2.84/10  3  119.Rh8 (Rf4)  -0.01/14  25  119...Rg5 (Nxg3)
>-2.61/10  17  120.Rf8 (Kb8)  -0.01/14  24  120...Rg4 (Nxg3)  -2.81/11  21
>121.Rh8 (Kb7)  -0.01/14  24  121...Rg5 (Nxg3)  -2.61/11  19  122.Rf8 (Kb6)
>-0.01/14  23  122...Nd6 (Nxg3)  -2.84/10  13  123.Rh8 (Rb8)  -0.01/14  23
>123...Rg7+ (Rxg3)  -2.61/10  18  124.Kb8 (Kb6)  -0.01/14  21  124...Rg4 (Rxg3)
>-2.84/11  12  125.Rf8  -0.01/14  21  Nc4 (Rxg3)  -2.76/11  30  126.Rh8 (Re8)
>-0.01/14  20  126...Ne3 (Rxg3)  -2.61/11  27  127.Rf8 (Kc7)  -0.01/15  20
>127...Nd5 (Rxg3)  -2.55/12  38  128.Rh8 (Kc8)  -0.01/14  20  128...Ne3 (Rxg3)
>-2.63/10  12  129.Rf8  -0.01/15  19  Rg7 (Rxg3)  -2.55/11  13  130.Rh8  -0.01/25
> 18  Nf5 (Rxg3)  -1.37/10  18  131.Rf8 (g4)  -0.01/38  35  131...Rg5 (Nxg3)
>-0.06/12  31  132.Rh8 (Re8)  -0.01/60  1  132...Ng7 (Nxg3)  -0.02/15  24
>133.Rg8 (Rf8)  -0.01/17  17  133...Kg1 (Rxg3)  -0.01/20  11  134.Rh8  -0.01/60
>0  Rxg3  -0.01/99  0  135.Kc7  0.00/1  0  Kf2 (Nf5)  0.00/1  0  136.Rf8+ (Kc6)
>0.00/1  0  136...Ke2  0.00/1  0  137.Rf7 (Kc6)  0.00/1  0  137...Ne6+  0.00/1  0
> 138.Kd6  0.00/1  0  Nd4  0.00/1  0  139.Re7+ (Kd5)  0.00/1  0  139...Kd2
>0.00/1  0  140.Rd7 (Kc5) Draw accepted  0.00/1  0  ½-½
>
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>
>pavs



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