Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 21:40:05 04/20/02
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On April 20, 2002 at 10:58:16, Sune Larsson wrote: >On April 20, 2002 at 10:24:57, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On April 20, 2002 at 09:31:09, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On April 20, 2002 at 08:21:27, Michael Vox wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>http://www.bwhitby.freeserve.co.uk/ChessRatings.htm >>>> >>>>WORLD CHAMPIONS & HIGHEST RATED CHESS PROGRAMS >>>> >>>>1 Gary Kasparov (1985-2001) 2838 >>>>2 Vladimir Kramnik (2001 - present) 2809 >>>>3 Robert James Fischer (1972-1975) 2785 >>>>4 Fritz 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2748 >>>>5 Mikhail Botvinnik (1948-1957, 1958-1960 & 1961-1963) 2730 >>>>6 Jose Raul Capablanca (1921 - 1927) 2725 >>>>7 Emanuel Lasker (1894 - 1921) 2720 >>>>8 Chess Tiger 14.0 CB 256MB Athlon 1200 2714 >>>>9 Deep Fritz 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2709 >>>>10 Gambit Tiger 2.0 256MB Athlon 1200 2708 >>>>11 Shredder 6.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2706 >>>>12 Mikhail Tal (1960-1961) 2700 >>>>13 Alexander Alekhine (1927 - 1935 & 1937-1946) 2690 >>>>14 Vasily Smyslov (1957-1958) 2690 >>>>15 Boris Spassky (1969-1972) 2690 >>>>16 Anatoly Karpov (1975-1985) 2690 >>>>17 Junior 7.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2684 >>>>18 Rebel Century 4.0 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2680 >>>>19 Tigran Petrosian (1963-1969) 2680 >>>>20 Shredder 5.32 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2662 >>>>21 Max Euwe (1935 - 1937) 2660 >>>>22 Deep Fritz 128MB K6-2 450 MHz 2654 >>>>23 William Steinitz (1886 - 1894) 2650 >>>>25 Gandalf 4.32h 256MB Athlon 1200 MHz 2649 >>> >>>I do not think that Capablanca and Kramnik are comaprable. >>> >>>they lived in different time. >>> >>>Uri >> >>Sure capablanca and kramnik are comparable. Of course capablanca >>will be beaten by kramnik when kramnik gives a simultaneously exhibition >>against a bunch of such players, but let's be realistic: >> >>in athletics they compare records which were run at 100 meters sprint >>out of 1980 with today too when showing a chart how the speed progressed. >> >>Ratings work a bit different than this > > > > > (someone from 2600 now >>is way better than someone 2600 from 20 years ago), > > > > Are you serious about this?! > > That Conquest 2601, Vallejo Pons 2630, Novikov 2588 (2001) > are "way better" than: > Petrosian 2585, Spassky 2630, Larsen 2610 (1981) ???? > > Sune ---------- ALPH07011.TXT 1000012 Timman, Jan H g NED 2597 13 14-12-51 M Yes a 2600 player of today with todays knowledge if he would play with that knowledge and (internet) training in 1981 a game he would kick ass. Add to this that Fischer won from Larsen with 6-0 already because the match was played at high altitude. Larsen played plain blunders. I do not know the names you quote, but Jan Timman with not even 2600 would completely annihilate Petrosian 2585, Spassky 2630, Larsen 2610 (1981) ???? Best regards, Vincent > > > > >>but still it's comparable.
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