Author: Uri Blass
Date: 12:08:39 04/21/02
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On April 21, 2002 at 14:38:43, Roy Eassa wrote: >On April 21, 2002 at 13:25:50, Boaz Emanuel Berg wrote: > >>I can not really say if Fritz 7 has Grandmasterstrength or not. Fritz play can >>change a lot from position to position. Still I havn´t played so many games >>against the program and the games I played I have only tried my usual lines. >> >>If I would play a lot of games and search for Fritz weaknesses I would know more >>about the strength of the program. >> >>Myself I am not so interested in the GM-strength or not. I think it´s a very >>good analyse- and trainingpartner. My reason to play against Fritz is mainly >>because I want to find my weaknesses in the openings and to test new openings, >>before I play them in real tournaments. >> >>\Emanuel Berg > > >It is interesting to hear that IM Berg is not certain that Fritz 7 is >grandmaster strength, which is generally considered to be around 2500. Yet so >many non-IMs believe Fritz to be 2700 or stronger. > >I think people may mix up "rating" with "strength." The two concepts have >usually gone hand-in-hand over the decades but CAN sometimes become very >separated. The current "rating" of the top programs may indeed be 2700, but >does this positively represent their true *strength* or could it be an anomaly >due to the fact that humans have not yet adopted survival skills (which they >must add to their normal chess skills) for facing the completely different set >of strengths and weaknesses that computers present? I think that it is the opposite. If humans play anti-computer stategy and are succesful then it means that the strength of the program is the strength of the program is going to be higher than their rating. strength means the ability to play well the position that humans play and not the ability to play well anti-computer strategy. When people train with a computer for a game against humans and they want to know the computer's strength they are not going to be interested in the rating of the computer when humans try anti computer strategy but in the rating of the computer when humans try normal chess against it. Uri
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