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Subject: Re: WORLD CHAMPIONS & HIGHEST RATED CHESS PROGRAMS

Author: Chris Carson

Date: 12:52:40 04/21/02

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On April 21, 2002 at 14:52:05, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On April 21, 2002 at 09:52:25, Chris Carson wrote:
>
>>On April 20, 2002 at 23:17:30, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On April 20, 2002 at 15:16:17, Michael Vox wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 20, 2002 at 14:43:57, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>Just click on the Link Bob
>>>
>>>Why.  When I _know_ Fritz doesn't have any 2700+ rating...
>>
>>True, Chess Tiger, Junior and Rebel are the 2700+ programs.  Firtz top
>>performance is 2678 on a 4x500mhz box and 2612 on a 2x1000mhz box.  Those are
>>all 40/2 time controls and no lower performances are posted for those boxes.
>>Fritz also has a 2800+ performance on a 2x1000mhz box at 60min + 10secs.
>>
>>Those are the facts.
>>see: http://home.interact.se/~w100107/manmachine.htm
>
>It is also a _fact_ that nobody compares a TPR to a true FIDE rating and
>then uses both to sort a list...

FIDE will not calculate ratings for computers, but we can calculate them
ourselves.

Here are all the results for Fritz on 800Mhz HW and above, 23 games, enough to
establish an ELO rating and also included is the opponents average rating, all
games 40/2:
                           Opp     Num
Program/HW           TPR   Avg    Games
Fritz PIII 800Mhz    2821  2503      5
Fritz 4x500Mhz       2678  2545     12
Fritz 2x100Mhz       2612  2612      6
                     ====  ====     ==
23 game ELO rating:  2692  2553     23

TPR's ranging from 2612 to 2821.

My opinion is that Fritz is over 2750+ on 8way box for GM Kramnik match.  If you
have more current results that contradicts this, by all means, share it.

I also think this rating will be higher at the now standard FIDE control.

>
>Kasparov has had 2600 and 2900 TPRs...  Which do you use?  The real FIDE
>rating of course.
>
>THe 2700+ rating for fritz obviously came from the SSDF...
>
>
>
>>
>>On the 8x box for the upcoming GM Kramnik match, my opinion is that Fritz is
>>2750+.  However, since this will be a match where GM Kramnik has months or over
>>a year to prepare, I expect Fritz to give a performance of 2650+.  But then
>>again, most 2700 GM's would be reduced to the mid 2600's in a match where GM
>>Kramnik prepared for over a year.
>>
>>>
>>>It obviously comes from some sort of "opinion"...
>>
>>You should read before you comment.  Even if your opinion is different.
>
>
>I _did_ read before I commented.



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