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Subject: Re: Simple end position but surprisingly difficult for some programs

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 14:44:16 04/21/02

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Analysis on Ath 1.4/32 MB hashtables

New game
[D]8/8/5kp1/4qp1p/1P6/2Q3P1/5P2/6K1 w - - 0 1
A very interesting position which cannot be solved by Fritz7007 and Junior7
within a reasonable time. Below analysis of some engines:

Analysis by Chess Tiger 14.0:

47.Qc6+ Qe6 48.Qc5 Qe5 49.Qb6+ Qe6 50.Qd8+ Qe7 51.Qh8+ Kf7 52.Qd4 Qe4 53.Qd7+
Qe7 54.Qxe7+ Kxe7 55.f4 Ke6
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  221kN
  =  (0.10)   Depth: 15   00:05:08  152540kN, tb=507
47.Qxe5+ Kxe5 48.f4+ Kd4 49.Kf2 Kc4 50.Ke3 Kd5 51.Kd3 Ke6 52.Kd4 Kd6 53.b5 Kc7
54.Ke5 Kb6 55.Kf6 Kxb5 56.Kxg6
  ±  (0.98)   Depth: 15   00:05:09  152830kN, tb=727
  +-  (1.68)   Depth: 19   00:06:12  180706kN, tb=13696

(Utzinger, MyTown 21.04.2002)
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Analysis by Comet B42:

47.Qxe5+ Kxe5 48.Kg2 Kd5 49.Kh1 g5 50.b5
  +-  (1.64)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
  +-  (1.45)   Depth: 4/12   00:00:00
47.Qc6+ Qe6 48.Qc5 Qe7 49.Qd4+ Qe5 50.Qd8+ Qe7 51.Qh8+ Kg5 52.b5 Qb7 53.Qe8
  +-  (1.46)   Depth: 4/12   00:00:00
  =  (0.24)   Depth: 10/23   00:00:15  7294kN, tb=790
47.Qc4 Qe4 48.Qa6+ Kg5 49.Qd6 f4 50.Qxf4+ Qxf4 51.gxf4+ Kxf4 52.Kg2 Ke4 53.f3+
Kf4 54.b5 Ke5
  ²  (0.26)   Depth: 10/23   00:00:31  14486kN, tb=1361
  ²  (0.27)   Depth: 12/25   00:01:18  37077kN, tb=5117
47.Qc6+ Qe6 48.Qc5 Qe7 49.Qd4+ Qe5 50.Qh4+ Kf7 51.Qc4+ Qe6 52.Qc5 Qe7 53.Qd5+
Qe6 54.Qb7+ Qe7
  ²  (0.37)   Depth: 12/25   00:01:26  41022kN, tb=6092
  ²  (0.37)   Depth: 14/27   00:03:44  108030kN, tb=25246
47.Qxe5+ Kxe5 48.f4+ Kd4 49.Kg2 h4 50.Kh3 hxg3 51.Kxg3 Ke3 52.b5
  ²  (0.50)   Depth: 14/30   00:05:39  164429kN, tb=48038
  ±  (1.32)   Depth: 15/30   00:06:04  175652kN, tb=62391

(Utzinger, MyTown 21.04.2002)
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Analysis by Crafty 18.14:

47.Qf3
  =  (-0.19)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
47.Qxe5+ Kxe5 48.f4+ Kd4 49.Kh2 Kc4 50.Kh3 Kxb4 51.Kh4 Kc4 52.Kg5 Kd5 53.Kxg6
Ke6 54.Kg5 Ke7 55.Kxf5 Kf7
  ²  (0.44)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
  +-  (2.69)   Depth: 15/34   00:00:42  33538kN, tb=1489

(Utzinger, MyTown 21.04.2002)
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Analysis by Fritz 7: [not solved within 10 min]

1.Qa3 f4 2.Qa6+ Kf5 3.Qc8+ Kg5 4.Qd8+ Kf5 5.gxf4 Kxf4 6.Qd2+ Kg4 7.Qd7+ Qf5
  =  (0.19)   Depth: 8/23   00:00:00  407kN
  =  (0.03)   Depth: 9/24   00:00:01  767kN
1.Qc6+!
  =  (0.06)   Depth: 9/24   00:00:01  808kN
  =  (0.22)   Depth: 9/24   00:00:01  851kN
1.Qd2 Ke7 2.f4 Qe6 3.Kf2 Kf7 4.Qe3 Qa2+
  =  (0.25)   Depth: 9/25   00:00:01  1226kN
  =  (0.25)   Depth: 10/24   00:00:02  1576kN
1.Qc6+ Qe6 2.Qc5 Qe7 3.Qb6+ Qe6 4.Qd8+ Qe7 5.Qh8+ Kf7 6.Qd4 Qe4 7.Qb6 f4 8.b5
  ²  (0.28)   Depth: 10/24   00:00:02  1668kN
  ²  (0.34)   Depth: 13/34   00:00:18  14637kN, tb=63
1.Qxe5+ Kxe5 2.f4+ Kd5 3.Kh2 Kc4 4.Kh3 Kxb4 5.Kh4 Kc5 6.Kg5 Kd5 7.Kxg6 Ke4
8.Kxh5
  ²  (0.38)   Depth: 13/34   00:00:29  22787kN, tb=149
  ²  (0.53)   Depth: 15/26   00:00:36  26979kN, tb=937
1.Qc6+!
  ²  (0.56)   Depth: 15/36   00:01:09  52806kN, tb=1277
  ±  (1.09)   Depth: 16/40   00:04:10  200385kN, tb=3294

(Utzinger, MyTown 21.04.2002)
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Analysis by Hiarcs 7.32:

1.Qxe5+ Kxe5 2.Kg2 Kd5 3.Kf3 Kc4 4.Kf4 Kxb4
  ²  (0.30)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
  µ  (-1.08)   Depth: 5/17   00:00:00  3kN
1.Qc6+ Qe6 2.Qc5 Qe5 3.Qf8+ Ke6 4.Qg8+ Kf6 5.Qd8+
  =  (0.14)   Depth: 5/17   00:00:00  72kN
  ²  (0.30)   Depth: 7/23   00:00:02  544kN
1.Qc4 Ke7 2.b5 Qd6 3.Kg2 Qb6 4.Kf3 Kd6 5.Qb4+ Ke5
  ²  (0.35)   Depth: 7/25   00:00:03  948kN
  ²  (0.42)   Depth: 9/27   00:00:30  8891kN
1.Qc6+ Qe6 2.Qc5 Qe5 3.Qb6+ Kg7
  ²  (0.43)   Depth: 9/29   00:00:39  11516kN
1.Qxe5+ Kxe5 2.f4+ Kd4 3.Kf2 Kc4 4.Ke3 Kd5 5.Kd3 Kc6 6.Kd4 Kd6 7.b5 Ke6 8.Kc5
  ²  (0.52)   Depth: 9/29   00:00:39  11543kN
  +-  (2.66)   Depth: 15/31   00:06:23  114978kN, tb=1362

(Utzinger, MyTown 21.04.2002)
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Analysis by Junior 7: [no solution within 15 min]

1.Qxe5+ Kxe5 2.Kg2 f4 3.gxf4+ Kxf4 4.Kh3 g5
  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
  =  (0.14)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  7kN
1.Qc6+ Qe6 2.Qxe6+ Kxe6 3.f4 Kd5 4.Kh2
  ²  (0.33)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  18kN
  ²  (0.55)   Depth: 20   00:15:57  1334198kN, tb=336134

(Utzinger, MyTown 21.04.2002)
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