Author: Chris Carson
Date: 15:02:47 04/21/02
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On April 21, 2002 at 17:22:53, Timothy J. Frohlick wrote:
>Smirin, who could wipe the floor with any of us at this site and is among the
>top 20 humans in the world is just too weak to beat the silicon mob on a
>consistent basis. That is good news for us computer chess fanatics. For about
>$1200.00 US we can have grandmaster level chess opponents. Much less expensive
>than hiring Smirin for $250.00 per hour to teach us chess..
>
GM Smirin has had winning opportunities in all the games. He is playing well
against the comps. He has a good chance to finish this with a two or more point
lead. He has a 1 point lead right now. The odds are in his favor right now.
He has played all the programs once and his preparation should only improve.
Standard FIDE time controls might help GM Smirin as well.
Although I have a lot of respect for the programs and programmers, we are 3 to 5
years away (if improvements continue at the same rate as the last 5 years) from
programs dominating a 2700 player. This does show that the programs are very
hard to beat, even for a 2700 player with a positional advantage.
A good commercial program is a great way to improve your game and increase your
experience and enjoyment. The program is a great enhancement to instruction and
chess learning, however, it is not a replacement for a teacher/coach in my
opinion.
Insight and experience from the $250/hr GM is priceless.
>
>Congratulations Christophe,
>
>Tim Frohlick
>
>On April 21, 2002 at 17:03:09, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>
>>[Event "Internet Challenge"]
>>[Site "?"]
>>[Date "2002.04.21"]
>>[Round "?"]
>>[White "Chess Tiger"]
>>[Black "Ilya Smirin"]
>>[Result "1/2-1/2"]
>>[ECO "E92"]
>>[BlackElo "2702"]
>>[Annotator "Frederic"]
>>[PlyCount "99"]
>>
>>1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. Nf3 O-O 6. Be2 e5 7. dxe5 dxe5 8.
>>Qxd8 Rxd8 9. Bg5 {Why do computers/programmers keep avoiding 1.e4 agains
>>Smirin? (Evan Katz. This is going to be a draw. (Murugan)} 9... c6 10. Nxe5 Re8
>>11. O-O-O Na6 12. f4 {Time: 1h:01-0h:59} 12... Nc5 13. Bxf6 Bxf6 {Time: 60:56}
>>14. b4 {Curious: Tiger wants to crush Smirin. FA: Tiger has his pawns on
>>parade. NYTed: If Smirin had white he would lose the white side here. Steff:
>>Black is okay. Murugan: Smirin getting a taste of his own medicine.} 14... Bxe5
>>15. fxe5 Nd7 {Spielhase: vernuenftige Entscheidung. NYTed: Let's see if he is
>>still in "The Butt Kickin Business". FA: Am I the only one who actually
>>prefers White's position? Time: 57:53} 16. e6 {FA: watch...a CT pawn sac for a
>>few tempi :) Time: 55:52 Shredder: 0.73, Fritz7 0.44} 16... Rxe6 17. b5 Re8 {
>>Veresov: Looks like white is going to an inferior ending when the dust settles.
>>Ferdinan: white is pushing, not winning.} 18. bxc6 bxc6 {Dreamer: this should
>>be an easy endgame win for black. Knallo: Smirin can be very happy to have a
>>slight advantage this early. Time: 52:50} 19. Rd6 Ne5 {Murugan: Black has a
>>comfotrtable position. Jeremaia: Smirin is well prepared. OMG: impossible for
>>smirin to lose this.} 20. c5 {Time: 50:49. MWorrior: Der Tiger faehrt wohl
>>gerade die Krallen aus... Woodcrusher: aber bei der Stellung kann Tiger nur
>>zum Vegetarier werden. Alterman: White has no active moves} 20... Be6 21. Bd1 {
>>Murugan: I change my mind. Black is going to win. Alterman: Strange play! Time:
>>49:47.} 21... Rab8 {SH: Smirin is the predator here! Curious: Blacks breakout
>>move could be the f5 pawn break. Murugan: I think Tiger is suffering from a
>>virus. DE: Der versuchte Bauernsturm von Tiger verflacht.} 22. Ba4 {Time: 48:46
>>Curious: Now White has a slight advantage. MWorrior: Why is white going for a
>>pawn? Mate ends the game!} 22... Rb4 {
>>Murugan: Go Smirin! Mendi: Smirin is playing like Junior 7. Time: 47:45} 23.
>>Bxc6 {Draco: ok folks, that's it. Black will win! MWarrior: Na los, Ilya,
>>schmier ihn!!} 23... Rc8 {Miepy: This not a Tiger, it looks more like a mouse!
>>Fritz: -0.91 NYTed: It's all about the Tablebases BABY! Deep Shredder
>>Paderborn 3100 mhz 24.Bd5 -1.06} 24. Bd5 Rxc5 {MWarrior: Good knight, CT!!
>>Junior: -1.08 Ardee: Tactical position, so the best Smirin can get is a draw.
>>Too open for human to defeat computer. Deep Shredder Paderborn 3100 mhz 25.Kc2
>>-1.30. Shay: Tiger is using a special book sent by Christophe Theron for the
>>event. Time: 37:44} 25. Kc2 Nc4 {Time: 36:43} 26. Rd8+ Kg7 {
>>NYTed: One Two Three Four Smirin's up by 2 in Four! Time: 34:43} 27. Bxe6 fxe6
>>28. Rd7+ Kh6 29. Re1 {Ardee: ...Rb2+ with advantage but winnable?? Time: 32:41}
>>29... Rb2+ 30. Kd1 Rxg2 31. Re2 {Pickle: Looks winning for Smirin. NYTed:
>>Tiger has been declawed. Constrictor: Tiger, tiger burning bright.} 31... Rxe2
>>{Time: 32:37} 32. Nxe2 a5 {Menno: Draw chances!! Nf4! Time: 24:37 Judge:
>>Smirin, hasn't unleashed the dogs...} 33. Nf4 {Time: 23:37} 33... Re5 34. Rd4
>>Ne3+ {Murugan: Smirin will have to work hard to produce a win. Time: 22:35} 35.
>>Ke2 {Time: 21:34 Sarek: la guagua satanica habia predicho esto!!!} 35... Nf5
>>36. Ra4 {Time: 21:32} 36... Nd6 37. Ke3 {
>>Constrictor: The tiger is still burning. Murugan: Play Kg5!} 37... Kg7 38. Nd3
>>{21:28} 38... Rh5 39. Nf4 Rxh2 {Time: 20:27} 40. Nxe6+ {
>>Ardee: Black may yet win!} 40... Kf6 {
>>Bigben: tiptoe down the h file with the pawn maybe?} 41. Nc5 {Miepy: Against
>>those two pawns even a Tiger is helpless. Time: 19:27. Shay says Gambit Tiger
>>is expecting 41...h5. Fritz prefers 41...Rc2} 41... g5 42. Kd4 Rd2+ 43. Kc3 Rd1
>>44. Kc2 {Time: 18:20} 44... Rh1 {Constrictor: these endgames are so darn
>>tricky. Miepy: This is certainly worth the a-pawn.} 45. Rxa5 {Time: 15:19}
>>45... g4 {
>>Frodo: Kasparov is right, you can't compare these programss with Deep Blue.}
>>46. Ra6 {Time: 15:17} 46... Ke7 47. Ra7+ Kf6 48. Ra6 Ke7 49. Ra7+ Kf6 {
>>Epanek: how embarrassing for Smirnin!} 50. Ra6 {
>>Telmo: Congratulations Christophe, Tiger has defended well. Time: 14:56-15:39.}
>>1/2-1/2
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