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Subject: Re: Smilin Smirin is too weak to beat these programs.

Author: martin fierz

Date: 16:37:20 04/21/02

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On April 21, 2002 at 18:08:58, Chris Carson wrote:

>On April 21, 2002 at 17:54:36, martin fierz wrote:
>
>>On April 21, 2002 at 17:47:40, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>>
>>>On April 21, 2002 at 17:38:47, martin fierz wrote:
>>>
>>>>smirin is wiping the floor with the programs too. he was clearly better in
>>>>*every* drawn game. he has shown 4 times that he is way better than the
>>>>programs. with a longer time control he would have had the time a human needs to
>>>>win a couple of games more.
>>>
>>>Sorry to disagree ,but you are making pure conjectures not supported by facts.
>>>I'm simply not convinced by your claim, since also programs analysis get better
>>>with time, period.
>>>
>>>w.b.r.
>>>Otello
>>
>>ok, you are right - i have no facts to support the conjecture. but i hope
>>someone here has - i know humans play better against comps at longer time
>>controls. i know there is data on this. does anyone have numbers to clear this
>>up?
>>
>>aloha
>>  martin
>
>In general more time benefits the human.  But that is not true for all humans.
>
>More time also benefits the programs.  They can search deeper and in critical
>positions.
>
>I do not know if more time would help GM Smirin, I do not recall time trouble
>for him, also he agreed to play at this time control.  60min + 10sec is a little
>shorter than standard FIDE, but not a lot.

10 seconds per move for the endgame (once you are out of time) is 3 times less
than the 30 seconds you get in the fide standard. i call that a lot. besides, in
all chess magazines you have the players complaining that the level of play
under the new fide time control is much worse.

aloha
  martin



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