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Subject: Re: GM, programs, and the draw era

Author: Chris Carson

Date: 06:52:33 04/22/02

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On April 22, 2002 at 09:26:46, Roy Eassa wrote:

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>What about those who claim that computers are not just GM level (say 2550) but
>super-GM level (say 2750)?

Depends on the program and the HW.  Rebel, Junior, CTiger, Fritz, maybe Hiarcs,
They are 2525 on pIII 500,  They are 2650+ on fastest single proc and on 8x
fastest box 2750.



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>On April 22, 2002 at 09:17:57, K. Burcham wrote:
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>>most here have witnessed the different levels of program and hardware strength
>>increases over the years.
>>the programs used to be looked at as a toy, or a novelty.
>>then the programs could beat a master.
>>then the programs could beat a GM but with lots of losses.
>>it seems now we are witnessing another phase of this growth.
>>there are more GM losing to programs, but the difference is
>>  that the GM cannot win like he used to. now it seems we are
>>going through a period of 4 out of 5, GM vs program games, being
>>drawn.
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>>i feel that when someone can play 30 games against a variety
>>of GM's, and draw almost every game, and occasionally win one,
>>it would be very difficult for me to not call him a GM.
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>>also we know what the next logical level is here, once we get through
>>this draw era. i think all here will witness the evolution of this
>>next level, less draws and more wins. i think in this next level,
>>it will become acceptable to all, to address programs as GM level.
>>kburcham



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