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Subject: Re: More and Last About Piracy

Author: blass uri

Date: 00:35:47 07/21/98

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On July 21, 1998 at 00:00:09, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On July 20, 1998 at 20:23:39, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>
>>On July 20, 1998 at 14:31:54, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>On July 20, 1998 at 11:54:38, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>>>
>>>There was a lot to comment on here, but I will comment on only a little.
>>>
>>>>¿Shouldn't be so? Maybe, but is is so. Like in everything else, sin and santity
>>>>mixs a lot. I don't feel any pride because I have received programs, I don't
>>>>feel priode either because I have given programs, but surely I don't feel to be
>>>>a thief because I have done both things.
>>>
>>>This is what I can't understand.  It is not so much that you pirate the
>>>software, but rather that you claim that doing so is value neutral.
>>>
>>>I am sure that some other readers agree with you.  I don't.
>>>
>>>bruce
>>
>>
>>Hi Bruce:
>>Maybe the problem arises for the sheer use of so a charged expresion as
>>"piracy". I agree with you that a russian zar copying a program thousand of
>>times to do business is a pirat, but just to do ocassionally a copy for a friend
>>or receive one in the same terms seems to me to be no more than the usual way
>>this kind of merchandise is used all around the world with full knowledege of
>>all parts. In any case, it does not means a damage for nobody, on the contrary.
>>When I purchase a program X and a friend purchase program Y and then we both
>>share the programs, the total sum of programs sold is two, but if any of us,
>>friends, were to assume the almost inhumane behaviour not to share nothing with
>>the other, the total sum would be not 4 programs, but maybe just one or none;
>>because part of the passion of this hobby and so the will to purchase take his
>>strenght from being a shared hobby; much of my interest would vanishes if i
>>could not share not only ideas but ocassionally something more with my relatives
>>in this issue. You see, Bruce, this is more a questions of human relations and
>>the way a certain behaviour is kept running than a legal issue that divides
>>people in good and bad guys.
>>Fernando
>
>But none of this gets past the basic point:  when something is sold, and you
>obtain a copy without paying the purchase price, this is stealing (larceny)
>plain and simple.  There is no defense, no justification, and no nice way of
>putting this.
>
>To imply that it is "o.k." to do this is not only a grossly wrong opinion, it
>is both criminally and morally wrong, and ought not be suggested nor tolerated.
>
>I can't believe the discussion is even going on.  It's just like stealing from
>a bank, or from a department store.  No difference at all.  And it is also
>*wrong*.

It should be the same like stealing from a bank, or from a department store

It is not the same because most of the humans do not see it like that
If I see someone is stealing from a bank I will call the police but if I know
someone is stealing programs I will not do it because I do not want everybody to
hate me

Uri




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