Author: blass uri
Date: 00:35:47 07/21/98
Go up one level in this thread
On July 21, 1998 at 00:00:09, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On July 20, 1998 at 20:23:39, Fernando Villegas wrote: > >>On July 20, 1998 at 14:31:54, Bruce Moreland wrote: >> >>> >>>On July 20, 1998 at 11:54:38, Fernando Villegas wrote: >>> >>>There was a lot to comment on here, but I will comment on only a little. >>> >>>>¿Shouldn't be so? Maybe, but is is so. Like in everything else, sin and santity >>>>mixs a lot. I don't feel any pride because I have received programs, I don't >>>>feel priode either because I have given programs, but surely I don't feel to be >>>>a thief because I have done both things. >>> >>>This is what I can't understand. It is not so much that you pirate the >>>software, but rather that you claim that doing so is value neutral. >>> >>>I am sure that some other readers agree with you. I don't. >>> >>>bruce >> >> >>Hi Bruce: >>Maybe the problem arises for the sheer use of so a charged expresion as >>"piracy". I agree with you that a russian zar copying a program thousand of >>times to do business is a pirat, but just to do ocassionally a copy for a friend >>or receive one in the same terms seems to me to be no more than the usual way >>this kind of merchandise is used all around the world with full knowledege of >>all parts. In any case, it does not means a damage for nobody, on the contrary. >>When I purchase a program X and a friend purchase program Y and then we both >>share the programs, the total sum of programs sold is two, but if any of us, >>friends, were to assume the almost inhumane behaviour not to share nothing with >>the other, the total sum would be not 4 programs, but maybe just one or none; >>because part of the passion of this hobby and so the will to purchase take his >>strenght from being a shared hobby; much of my interest would vanishes if i >>could not share not only ideas but ocassionally something more with my relatives >>in this issue. You see, Bruce, this is more a questions of human relations and >>the way a certain behaviour is kept running than a legal issue that divides >>people in good and bad guys. >>Fernando > >But none of this gets past the basic point: when something is sold, and you >obtain a copy without paying the purchase price, this is stealing (larceny) >plain and simple. There is no defense, no justification, and no nice way of >putting this. > >To imply that it is "o.k." to do this is not only a grossly wrong opinion, it >is both criminally and morally wrong, and ought not be suggested nor tolerated. > >I can't believe the discussion is even going on. It's just like stealing from >a bank, or from a department store. No difference at all. And it is also >*wrong*. It should be the same like stealing from a bank, or from a department store It is not the same because most of the humans do not see it like that If I see someone is stealing from a bank I will call the police but if I know someone is stealing programs I will not do it because I do not want everybody to hate me Uri
This page took 0 seconds to execute
Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700
Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.