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Subject: Re: Are you amateur? (two interesting positions)

Author: Andrew Williams

Date: 07:58:44 04/24/02

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On April 24, 2002 at 09:28:26, Grzegorz Sidorowicz wrote:

Hi again,

I searched the second one for an hour and PM switched to Qf3. (These figures are
on a PIII 933 by the way):

 1>   199     0         5   1.fxg3
 1=   303     0       361   1.fxg3 Qxg3
 2>   303     0       364   1.fxg3 Qxg3
 2=   303     0       465   1.fxg3 Qxg3
 3>   303     0       522   1.fxg3 Qxg3 2.Kh1
 3=   303     0      1126   1.fxg3 Qxg3 2.Kh1
 4>   227     0      3177   1.Kh2 Nf5 2.Kxh3 Nxe7 3.f4
 4=   242     0      3536   1.Kh2 Nf5 2.Kxh3 Nxe7 3.f4
 5>   222     0     10366   1.fxg3 Qxg3 2.Kh1 Be5 3.Qe4
 5=   227     0     10706   1.fxg3 Qxg3 2.Kh1 Be5 3.Qe4
 6>   155     0     48851   1.Rc2 Qe5 2.fxg3 Qxg3 3.Kh1 Be5
 6=   176     0     57418   1.Rc2 Qe5 2.Kh2 Bf5 3.Nxf5 Qxf5
 7>   176     1     98866   1.Rc2 Qe5 2.fxg3 Qxg3 3.Kh1 Be5 4.Bc5
 7b   181     1    132009   1.Qf3 Qxe7 2.Qxg3 Qxa7 3.Qxh3 Qxa2 4.Qf3 Re8 5.e4
 7=   186     1    174783   1.Qf3 Qxe7 2.Qxg3 Qxa7 3.Qxh3 Qxa2 4.Qe3 Rd8 5.Rd1
 8>   186     4    374249   1.Rc2 Nh5 2.Qe4 Re8 3.Bc5 Qf6 4.Kh2
 8=   200     5    493075   1.Rc2 Nh5 2.Qe4 Re8 3.Bc5 Qf6 4.Kh2
 9>   159    15   1493755   1.Rc2 Nf1 2.Qc7 Qe6 3.Rxf1 Be5 4.Qc8 Rxc8 5.Rxc8
 9=   179    16   1513967   1.Rc2 Nf1 2.Qc7 Qe6 3.Qf4 Re8 4.Nc6 Bf5
10>   179    22   2151709   1.Rc2 Nf1 2.Qc7 Qe6 3.Qf4 Re8 4.Nc6 Bf5 5.Nd4
10=   185    36   3510520   1.Rc2 Nf1 2.Qc7 Qe6 3.Qf4 Re8 4.Nc6 Bf5 5.Nd4
11>   165   132  12348673   1.Qf3 Qxe7 2.Qxg3 Qxa7 3.Qxh3 Qxa2 4.Qe3 Qa5
                            5.Rc5 Qa8 6.Rbc1
11=   175   147  14437882   1.Qf3 Qxe7 2.Qxg3 Qxa7 3.Qxh3 Qxa2 4.Qe3 Qa5
                            5.Rc5 Qa8 6.f3
12>   155   484  43170522   1.Qf3 Qxe7 2.Qxg3 Qxa7 3.Qxh3 Qxa2 4.Qf3 Re8
                            5.e3 Kg8 6.Rd1 Be5
12=   161   665  58376414   1.Qf3 Qxe7 2.Qxg3 Qxa7 3.Qxh3 Qxa2 4.Qf3 Re8
                            5.Rd1 Kg8 6.e3 Be5
13>   161   698  62188037   1.Qf3 Qxe7 2.Qxg3 Qxa7 3.Qxh3 Qxa2 4.Qf3 Re8
                            5.Rd1 Kg8 6.e3 Be5
13=   164  1802 158871337   1.Qf3 Qxe7 2.Qxg3 Qxa7 3.Qxh3 Qxa2 4.Qe3 Qa5
                            5.Rc5 Qd8



Andrew


>
>4 seconds it is not bad result - I think :-)
>If program can solve it below 10 second for me is not amateur.
>For example GNU Chess have got strange problems with this positions,
>but for Phalanx or any commercial program it is not very difficult problems.
>
>P.S.
>Armageddon is my program. It is amateur :-)
>My log files (on PII350):
>
>depth time    nodes       score   variation
>-------------------------------------------
>4     0       32645       642     a4c4 e8g6 f6g7 f8g7
>5     0       47790       617     a4c4 e8g6 f6g7 f8g7 c4c8 a8c8 c1c6
>5     1       113700      103     a4c4 e8h5 f6h4 h5h4 b5d6
>5     3       252391      258     f6h4 c8d7 h4e7 d7b5 e7f8
>5     6       528533      399     d3f4 e5f4 a4c4 e8g6 f6g7 f8g7 b5d4
>5     6       573825      431     b5c7 e8h5 f6h4 h5h4 c7a8
>5     7       632420      431     b5c7 e8h5 f6h4 h5h4 c7a8
>6     7       654095      456     b5c7 e8h5 f6h4 h5h4 c7a8 e7d5
>6     7       691845      473     b5c7 e8a4 b3a4 a8b8 c7b5 g7g6 f6e7
>7     10      1013299     448     b5c7 e8h5 f6h4 h5h4 d3e5
>7     22      2209232     -42992  b5c7 e8h5 f6h4 h5h4 f1d1 h4h2 g1f1 h2h1 f1g1
>c8d7
>7     40      3856952     83      d3e5 e8h5 f6h4 h5h4 e5g4 c8g4 f3g4
>7     1.9     6426972     264     d3f4 e5f4 b5c7 e8a4 b3a4 a8b8 c7b5 g7g6 f6e7
>
>
>second position
>
>depth time    nodes       score   variation
>-------------------------------------------
>4     0       34172       502     f2g3 d6g3 g1h1 g7e5 a7g1 g3g2
>5     0       44765       477     f2g3 d6g3 g1h1 g7e5 a7g1 h3g2 b7g2 g3h4 g1h2
>h4e7
>5     1       107935      434     f2g3 d6g3 g1h1 g7e5 a7g1 h3g2 b7g2 g3h4 g1h2
>h4e7
>6     2       166625      409     f2g3 d6g3 g1h1 g7e5 a7g1 h3e6 e7f5 g6f5
>6     4       334863      372     f2g3 d6g3 g1h1 g7e5 a7g1 h3e6 e7g6 f7g6 g1c5
>7     6       434116      347     f2g3 d6g3 g1h1 g7e5 a7g1 h3e6 e7g6 f7g6 g1c5
>7     19      1496826     244     f2g3 d6g3 g1h1 g7e5 a7g1 h3e6 e7g6 f7g6 b7b4
>g3h3
>7     44      3700185     248     c1c2 g7f6 e7d5 h3f5 a7c5 g3e2 g1f1 d6e5
>8     1.0     5239557     233     c1c2 g7f6 b7f3 d6e7 f3g3 h3f5 a7c5 f5c2 c5e7
>8     1.12    6369533     244     f2g3 d6g3
>9     1.46    9309348     219     f2g3 d6g3 g1h1 g7e5 a7g1 h3e6 e7g6 f7g6 b7h7
>h8h7 c1c7 e5c7 g1d4
>9     2.52    15576796    243     c1c2 g3f1 b7c7 d6c7 c2c7 g7e5 c7b7 f1d2 b1d1
>d2e4
>
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I'm not sure I understand the question about being amateur, but PostModernist
>>gets both of these in 4 seconds.
>>
>>Andrew
>>
>>PS Which engine is yours?



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