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Subject: Re: Smirin - Hiarcs8, Today, LIVE, 19:00 GMT

Author: Vincent Lejeune

Date: 09:14:06 04/24/02

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On April 24, 2002 at 11:54:14, Louis Fagliano wrote:

>On April 24, 2002 at 11:21:50, Vincent Lejeune wrote:
>
>>On April 24, 2002 at 10:31:58, Louis Fagliano wrote:
>>
>>>On April 24, 2002 at 06:14:48, Tina Long wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 24, 2002 at 02:59:19, Shay Bushinsky wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Grandmaster Ilya Smirin, leading 3-3, will play his sixth
>>>>>game in the 8 game series. Today he will be playing WHITE
>>>>>against Hiarcs 8, the new version by Mark Uniacke of England
>>>>>running on a P2 2.2GHz.
>>>>>You may watch the games live with grandmaster Boris Alterman
>>>>>commentary + real time evaluations from the playing software + live web cam from
>>>>>the playing venue on www.kasparov.com or join the ChessBase community on the
>>>>>ChessBase game server.
>>>>>
>>>>>Enjoy!
>>>>>
>>>>>For more details, checkout:
>>>>>
>>>>>www.kasparov.com
>>>>>www.chessbase.com
>>>>
>>>>Dillema dillema,
>>>>I suppose Ideally for this game I would like to see GM Smirin win brilliantly
>>>>against an excellent playing error free Hiarcs8.
>>>>
>>>>This is exciting,
>>>>
>>>>Tina Long
>>>
>>>
>>>It's impossible to play error free chess and lose.  It's the nature of the game
>>>that, in a loss, the loser MUST have made at least one that, under intense
>>>scrutiny, deserves a question mark.  In other words, I'm saying that the opening
>>>position is not a forced win for White!
>>
>>May be Tina Long mean Hiarcs 8 is error free or The Perfect chess program of our
>>time ...
>>
>>This lead to some philosophical questions :
>>
>>1) what's the level of a perfect chess-program running on PC 8088@4.77 Mhz ?
>>2) what's the level of a perfect chess-program running on AMD@2000 Mhz ?
>>3) what's the level of a perfect chess-program running on a super computer with
>>32 POWERPC processor with 480 specialised chess-chips ?
>>
>>I would say
>>1) 2000 Elo
>>2) 3000 Elo
>>3) 3800 Elo
>>
>>I smell this post will set fire to the forum in some time ...
>>
>>(I decline all responsibilities...)  ;)))
>>
>
>3800 Elo??
>
>Let's see.  A 400 point differetial between the higher rated player and the
>lower rated player means that the higher rated player would be expected to score
>100%, right?

No, you're wrong !
400 points means something like 99.9513321% (or so ;) )
100% against a player mean a +infinity points !

May be 400 if you use simpler (and fake) formulas than the original by Dr. Arpad
Elo

more details here : http://www.vogclub.com/ratings/elodetails.phtml

>
>Now with Kasparov and Kramnik at about 2800 or so, then if some God-like entity
>can whip them to the tune of a 100% score in a match (about 3250 Elo), this
>means that another Super-God-like entity would be able to clobber that God-like
>entity by a 100% score.
>
>That's some pretty damn good chess!!



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