Author: Louis Fagliano
Date: 09:33:00 04/24/02
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On April 24, 2002 at 12:14:06, Vincent Lejeune wrote: >On April 24, 2002 at 11:54:14, Louis Fagliano wrote: > >>On April 24, 2002 at 11:21:50, Vincent Lejeune wrote: >> >>>On April 24, 2002 at 10:31:58, Louis Fagliano wrote: >>> >>>>On April 24, 2002 at 06:14:48, Tina Long wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 24, 2002 at 02:59:19, Shay Bushinsky wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Grandmaster Ilya Smirin, leading 3-3, will play his sixth >>>>>>game in the 8 game series. Today he will be playing WHITE >>>>>>against Hiarcs 8, the new version by Mark Uniacke of England >>>>>>running on a P2 2.2GHz. >>>>>>You may watch the games live with grandmaster Boris Alterman >>>>>>commentary + real time evaluations from the playing software + live web cam from >>>>>>the playing venue on www.kasparov.com or join the ChessBase community on the >>>>>>ChessBase game server. >>>>>> >>>>>>Enjoy! >>>>>> >>>>>>For more details, checkout: >>>>>> >>>>>>www.kasparov.com >>>>>>www.chessbase.com >>>>> >>>>>Dillema dillema, >>>>>I suppose Ideally for this game I would like to see GM Smirin win brilliantly >>>>>against an excellent playing error free Hiarcs8. >>>>> >>>>>This is exciting, >>>>> >>>>>Tina Long >>>> >>>> >>>>It's impossible to play error free chess and lose. It's the nature of the game >>>>that, in a loss, the loser MUST have made at least one that, under intense >>>>scrutiny, deserves a question mark. In other words, I'm saying that the opening >>>>position is not a forced win for White! >>> >>>May be Tina Long mean Hiarcs 8 is error free or The Perfect chess program of our >>>time ... >>> >>>This lead to some philosophical questions : >>> >>>1) what's the level of a perfect chess-program running on PC 8088@4.77 Mhz ? >>>2) what's the level of a perfect chess-program running on AMD@2000 Mhz ? >>>3) what's the level of a perfect chess-program running on a super computer with >>>32 POWERPC processor with 480 specialised chess-chips ? >>> >>>I would say >>>1) 2000 Elo >>>2) 3000 Elo >>>3) 3800 Elo >>> >>>I smell this post will set fire to the forum in some time ... >>> >>>(I decline all responsibilities...) ;))) >>> >> >>3800 Elo?? >> >>Let's see. A 400 point differetial between the higher rated player and the >>lower rated player means that the higher rated player would be expected to score >>100%, right? > >No, you're wrong ! >400 points means something like 99.9513321% (or so ;) ) >100% against a player mean a +infinity points ! > >May be 400 if you use simpler (and fake) formulas than the original by Dr. Arpad >Elo > >more details here : http://www.vogclub.com/ratings/elodetails.phtml > >> >>Now with Kasparov and Kramnik at about 2800 or so, then if some God-like entity >>can whip them to the tune of a 100% score in a match (about 3250 Elo), this >>means that another Super-God-like entity would be able to clobber that God-like >>entity by a 100% score. >> >>That's some pretty damn good chess!! Thanks for the info and also for the URL for the web site. I was writing from memory as to what I thought were the differentials between the higher and lower rated players. Still a 1000 point differential (3800 - 2800) on that web site says "approaching 100%" and means that this super-monster clobbers Kasparov or Kramnik 10-0 in ten games. (Or 20-0 in twenty games!) So I'll still say that's some pretty damn good chess!!
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