Author: John Merlino
Date: 11:03:30 04/24/02
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On April 24, 2002 at 13:48:12, Roy Eassa wrote:
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>Does ANY program see the whole line (3 underpromotions) up front?
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>[d] 1b6/4P3/1P2PN2/8/8/P1k5/P1p2P2/K5B1 w - - 0 1
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>1.Ne4+
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> [1.Nd5+? Kd2 2.Kb2 c1Q+ 3.Kb3 Bd6! 4.Nb4 Bxe7 5.b7 Qc7 -+]
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>1...Kd3 2.Nc5+
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> [2.Kb2? Be5+ and Black mates]
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>2...Kc3 3.Nb3 Be5 4.f4! forced
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> [4.Bh2? Bf6 5.e8N Bh8 and Black mates!]
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>4...Bf6 {or ...Bg7} 5.e8N! forced
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>5...Bh8 6.f5! forced
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>6...Be5 7.Bh2! forced
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>7...Bxh2 8.b7! forced
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>8...Be5! 9.b8B!
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> [9.b8Q? Kc4+ 10.Qxe5 c1Q+ 11.Nxc1 stalemate]
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>9...Bxb8 10.Nc7! forced
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>10...Bxc7 11.e7 forced
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>11...Be5 12.e8R!
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> [12.e8Q? Kc4+ 13.Qxe5 c1Q+ 14.Nxc1 stalemate]
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>12...Bg7 {or ...Bf6}
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>13.Re6 followed by f6
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>Problem attributed to Mark Libiurkin, circa 1933.
There is a problem with the above line. Here is CM's analysis from the initial
position (note the first seven moves agree with your above line):
Time Depth Score Positions Moves
0:00 2/3 9.94 3081 1.Ne4+ Kd3 2.Nc5+ Kc3 3.Nb3 Kc4
4.Kb2
0:00 3/4 7.65 6474 1.Ne4+ Kd3 2.Nc5+ Kd2 3.Nb3+ Kd1
4.f4 Bxf4 5.Bd4
0:00 4/5 9.82 13420 1.Ne4+ Kd3 2.Nc5+ Ke2 3.Kb2 Kd1
4.Nd3 Be5+ 5.Kb3
0:00 5/6 12.01 27685 1.Ne4+ Kd3 2.Nc5+ Kd2 3.Nb3+ Kd1
4.f4 Bxf4 5.Bd4 Be3 6.Bxe3
0:00 6/7 12.07 55694 1.Ne4+ Kd3 2.Nc5+ Kc3 3.Nb3 Be5
4.Bh2 Bf6 5.e8=N Be7 6.Be5+ Kc4
0:01 7/8 12.01 105397 1.Ne4+ Kd3 2.Nc5+ Kc3 3.Nb3 Be5
4.f4 Bf6 5.e8=N Bh8 6.f5
0:02 8/9 12.23 199081 1.Ne4+ Kd3 2.Nc5+ Kc3 3.Nb3 Be5
4.f4 Bf6 5.e8=N Bh8 6.f5 Be5 7.f6
0:05 9/10 9.27 469863 1.Ne4+ Kd3 2.Nc5+ Kc3 3.Nb3 Be5
4.f4 Bf6 5.e8=N Bh8 6.f5 Be5 7.Bd4+
Bxd4
0:09 10/11 9.37 865339 1.Ne4+ Kd3 2.Nc5+ Kc3 3.Nb3 Be5
4.f4 Bf6 5.e8=N Bh8 6.f5 Be5 7.Bh2
Bxh2 8.Nf6
0:21 11/12 9.37 1872831 1.Ne4+ Kd3 2.Nc5+ Kc3 3.Nb3 Be5
4.f4 Bf6 5.e8=N Bh8 6.f5 Be5 7.Bh2
Bxh2 8.Nf6
However, in your line, 8...Be5 loses outright. Here is Chessmaster 9000's
analysis after 8.b7, which says that 8...Kd3 is the best move, and leads to a
game where White has a queen and three pawns, and Black has a queen and a
bishop:
Time Depth Score Positions Moves
0:00 2/3 7.65 917 8...Be5 9.b8=Q Bxb8
0:00 3/4 7.61 2731 8...Be5 9.b8=B Bxb8 10.f6
0:00 4/5 7.73 7396 8...Be5 9.b8=B Bxb8 10.f6 Bf4
0:00 4/5 6.00 9191 8...Kd3 9.Nc1+ Kd2 10.Kb2 Be5+
11.Kb3 Kxc1 12.Nf6
0:00 5/6 5.44 12675 8...Kd3 9.Nc1+ Kd2 10.Kb2 Be5+
11.Kb3 Kxc1 12.Nf6 Kd2
0:00 6/7 4.47 21350 8...Kd3 9.Nc1+ Kd2 10.Kb2 Be5+
11.Kb3 Kxc1 12.f6 Kb1 13.f7 c1=Q
14.f8=Q Qc3+ 15.Ka4 Kxa2
0:00 7/8 3.61 40916 8...Kd3 9.Nc1+ Kd2 10.Kb2 Be5+
11.Kb3 Kxc1 12.Nf6 Kb1 13.b8=Q Bxb8
0:00 8/9 2.92 71437 8...Kd3 9.Nc1+ Kd2 10.Kb2 Be5+
11.Kb3 Kxc1 12.b8=Q Bxb8 13.f6
Kb1 14.f7 c1=Q 15.f8=Q Qc2+ 16.Kb4
Kxa2
0:01 9/10 2.91 129596 8...Kd3 9.Nc1+ Kd2 10.Kb2 Be5+
11.Kb3 Kxc1 12.f6 Kb1 13.f7 c1=Q
14.f8=Q Qc3+ 15.Ka4 Qc6+ 16.Kb4
Qxb7+ 17.Kc5 Kxa2
0:03 10/11 2.62 316378 8...Kd3 9.Nc1+ Kd2 10.Kb2 Be5+
11.Kb3 Kxc1 12.Nc7 Bxc7 13.b8=Q
Bxb8 14.e7 Kd1 15.e8=Q c1=Q 16.Qxb8
Qc2+ 17.Kb4 Qxf5
0:07 11/12 2.28 637636 8...Kd3 9.Nc1+ Kd2 10.Kb2 Be5+
11.Kb3 Kxc1 12.Nc7 Bxc7 13.e7 Kb1
14.e8=Q c1=Q 15.Qe2 Ka1 16.Qg2
Qb1+ 17.Kc3
0:15 12/13 2.27 1366434 8...Kd3 9.Nc1+ Kd2 10.Kb2 Be5+
11.Kb3 Kxc1 12.Nc7 Bxc7 13.e7 Kb1
14.e8=Q c1=Q 15.Qe4+ Ka1 16.Qd4+
Kb1 17.Qd3+ Ka1 18.Qc3+ Qxc3+ 19.Kxc3
Kxa2 20.a4 Ka3
0:42 13/14 2.35 3685053 8...Kd3 9.Nc1+ Kd2 10.Kb2 Be5+
11.Kb3 Kxc1 12.Nc7 Bxc7 13.e7 Kd2
14.e8=Q c1=Q 15.Qd7+ Ke3 16.Qd5
Kf4 17.f6 Qe3+ 18.Kc4 Qc1+ 19.Kb5
Qxa3
1:57 14/15 2.40 10277553 8...Kd3 9.Nc1+ Kd2 10.Kb2 Be5+
11.Kb3 Kxc1 12.Nc7 Bxc7 13.e7 Kd2
14.e8=Q c1=Q 15.Qd7+ Ke3 16.Qd5
Kf4 17.f6 Qe3+ 18.Kc4 Qxa3 19.Qd2+
Kf3
Here is the analysis after 8...Be5 (note the remaining two underpromotions and
the much higher eval for White):
Time Depth Score Positions Moves
0:00 2/3 0.00 453 9.b8=Q Kc4+ 10.Qxe5 c1=Q+ 11.Nxc1
0:00 2/3 7.61 680 9.b8=B Bxb8 10.f6
0:00 3/4 7.73 1862 9.b8=B Bxb8 10.f6 Bf4
0:00 4/5 7.47 5160 9.b8=B Bxb8 10.Nf6 Be5 11.Nd7
0:00 5/6 7.92 9869 9.b8=B Bxb8 10.Nc7 Kc4 11.e7 Ba7
12.Kb2
0:00 6/7 10.09 16706 9.b8=B Bxb8 10.Nc7 Kc4 11.e7 Ba7
12.Kb2 c1=Q+ 13.Kxc1
0:00 7/8 6.96 31443 9.b8=B Bxb8 10.Nc7 Bxc7 11.e7 Be5
12.e8=R Bg7 13.Re7
0:00 8/9 7.32 47963 9.b8=B Bxb8 10.Nc7 Bxc7 11.e7 Be5
12.e8=R Bg7 13.Rg8 Bf6
0:00 9/10 7.73 82525 9.b8=B Bxb8 10.Nc7 Bxc7 11.e7 Be5
12.e8=R Bf6 13.Re6 Bg7 14.Rc6+
Kd3+ 15.f6
0:01 10/11 7.82 147748 9.b8=B Bxb8 10.Nc7 Bxc7 11.e7 Be5
12.e8=R Bg7 13.Re6 Kd3+ 14.f6 Bf8
15.Kb2
0:02 11/12 8.16 271525 9.b8=B Bxb8 10.Nc7 Bxc7 11.e7 Be5
12.e8=R Bg7 13.Re6 Kc4+ 14.f6 Bh8
15.Kb2 Kd5 16.Re8 c1=Q+ 17.Kxc1
Bxf6
0:04 12/13 8.20 479706 9.b8=B Bxb8 10.Nc7 Bxc7 11.e7 Be5
12.e8=R Bg7 13.Re6 Kc4+ 14.f6 Bh8
15.Rd6 Kb5 16.Kb2
0:09 13/14 8.44 924526 9.b8=B Bxb8 10.Nc7 Bxc7 11.e7 Be5
12.e8=R Bg7 13.Re6 Kc4+ 14.f6 Bh8
15.Rd6 Kc3 16.Rc6+ Kd3 17.Kb2
0:19 14/15 9.24 1948702 9.b8=B Bxb8 10.Nc7 Bxc7 11.e7 Be5
12.e8=R Bg7 13.Re6 c1=Q+ 14.Nxc1
Kc2+ 15.f6 Bxf6+ 16.Rxf6 Kxc1 17.a4
Kc2 18.a5 Kd2 19.Kb2 Kd3 20.a6
0:53 15/16 9.80 5290251 9.b8=B Bxb8 10.Nc7 Bxc7 11.e7 Be5
12.e8=R Bg7 13.Re6 Bf8 14.Rc6+
Kd3 15.Kb2 Ke4 16.f6 Ke5 17.f7
c1=Q+ 18.Rxc1
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