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Subject: Re: Ilya Smirin - Hiarcs 8 ½-½ - Hiarcs was seeing a strong advantage...

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 03:52:58 04/25/02

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On April 25, 2002 at 06:08:03, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On April 25, 2002 at 05:24:52, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>I do not know why do you suspect that it is more.
>
>Because I have not tested how Chezzz's strength depends on hashsize, and 6 elo
>doesn't sound like a lot.
>
>>In the second game(10 hours per game) movei is losing the endgame against chezzz
>>so it is 1-1
>>
>>The previous movei also lost the game with black(10 hours for game) and I think
>>that the latest version played better.
>>
>>I will stop these long time control games and I will try to implement some very
>>small opening book only for the first move and learning to change the first move
>>in every game so movei will be able to play a match of 4 games without repeating
>>the same game twice.
>>
>>
>
>If the point is to prove you have a method that is better than hashing, then I
>think you should give your opponents a decent size hash.

I did not say that I have a method that is better than hashing but that I am not
going to use hash tables in the way that they are used today by chess programs.

I also think that 8 mbytes is a decent hash and the difference between 8 mbytes
and 128 mbytes is small(I also cannot use 128 mbytes in my p800).

I remember a claim by programmers that doubling the hash tables give 6-7 elo and
I do not remember a claim that it is dependent on the time control.

>
>An opening book is a good idea for that reason. I don't want a huge book because
>I want the engine to play the game itself, the opening included.
>
>-S.

I agree and I also never liked the idea of a huge opening book.

Uri



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