Author: Roy Eassa
Date: 06:38:12 04/26/02
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On April 26, 2002 at 09:02:28, Albert Silver wrote: >>I think 10-20 yrs is a long shot. >>If we take Fritz for example, we see that it releases new versions every yr, >>from the last version (DF) of this strong engine, Fritz7 is (arguably, but maybe >>not so)50+ avg stronger, it is almost more than 80-100 elo better than Fritz6 >>(arguably again). >> >>We can perhaps state about the current version of Fritz7 that it is almost the >>same strength as lets say a human rated 2600-2650 (arguably). So with the >>current trend we can assume that when Fritz11 comes out at yr 2006, it will be >>(arguably) 200elo more than the current version which will be around 2800-2850 >>(ahem arguably), and with much more faster processors, this could turn out to be >>even stronger. >> >>So maybe in another 4yr we can have Kasparov-kramnik running on our handheld PC. >> >>not too fictional IMO ;) >> >>pavs > >I don't know that I agree with your assessment Pavel. First there is the 80-100 >Elo improvement you claim for Fritz 7 over Fritz 6. This increase is that touted >by the SSDF, but as has been generally acknowledged, the results of comp-comp >games aren't the same as comp-human games. The 80-100 Elo only represents it's >ability (performance) to beat other programs on other machines, but doesn't mean >that it will improve its performance over humans by the same margin. In fact I'm >sure it doesn't. > >Have you ever logged on ICC to see the games between some of the known computer >killers? One of them is rather interestingly the >recently-returned-from-retirement GM Mecking. I have had the opportunity to >observe several of his games and in particular noticed how he went about beating >them, when he did beat them. He holds his own in _blitz_ games against them mind >you, where they should theoretically be having a field day, and is undoubtedly >the key to the colossal rating he has on the server. He has also been about this >for a couple of years, and his win-loss ratio against them hasn't changed much >despite a few upgrades in software versions, and the much faster hardware. Also, >he always plays the highest rated accounts there. You should note that he is far >below 2700 FIDE and no longer at his best. > >On a side note, he has been visiting Rio consistently lately in order to have >intensive chess software training with yours truly so I expect to see his form >recover somewhat if he sticks to it. I'm also teaching him how to use the mouse >with ONE hand BTW. > > Albert Albert, that's _very_ interesting info on GM Mecking -- thank you for posting it! You have been quite silent on this board in recent weeks. I hope this signals your return in full force!
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