Author: Mark Young
Date: 02:58:31 07/22/98
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On July 22, 1998 at 04:47:09, Howard Exner wrote: >On July 22, 1998 at 04:08:45, Mark Young wrote: > >>On July 22, 1998 at 03:48:48, Howard Exner wrote: >> >>>On July 22, 1998 at 02:59:55, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>What is the milestone in Rebel vs Anand? >>> >>>3-1 victory in blitz match with an almost 2800 rated player. >>>1.5-.5 victory in a game/15 match ... >>>> >>>>bruce >>> >>>Is the use of the word milestone the hurdle here? >>> >>>Remember, my post included this sentence: >>> >>>Maybe milestones is too strong a word but some kind of site would be >>>nice that would showcase the accomplishments of the many programmers in this >>>area of computer chess. >>> >>>I hoped that I made the intention clear by citing a few examples. >>>Here are the other ones: >>> >>>Crafty winning a state championship >>>Genius beating Kasparov in game/30 >>>Listing the first micro to beat a GM >>>The net tournament of game/30 where the computers did so well. >>>(Wasn't Ferret part of that computer group?) >>> >>>Are the few examples I've given not worthy candidates of accomplishments >>>made by chess programs? >>>If Rebel-Anand isn't noteworthy which of the above are? >>> >>>I wasn't looking for some rigid test that the programs had to pass >>>to be included. For example, I think an accomplishment would be >>>citing some of the current ICC computer ratings. Put in an historical >>>perspective that to me is quite an achievement. >> >>Right now Rebel 10's results are just that very good results. But nothing that >>is a milestone. > >I've re-read my original post and while I used the catchy phrase >"micro milestone" in the header, I clarified the intent of the post by >words, "accomplishments" and "showcase". > > > This kind of results is my book is not to unexpected. > >Because of the fast time control it may not be that unexpected for some, >but still it should make the hi-light reels. >And while, like yourself I refer to this as an accomplishment, it may well be >a milestone for others. > >I can't recall another pre >arranged match with an Anand-like player getting defeated in blitz. Sure, other >programs could have done it if given the chance but the fact remains they >haven't. Hey, I think I've just talked myself into thinking it is a milestone :) > When Chess Genius played Kasparov that was a knock out match and the time control was longer and the computer was slower. So It has been done before. If my memory is correct it beat Kasparov and Topalov scoring 3.5 out of 4 at game 30 before falling to Anand. So if you mean by an "Anand-like" player as being in the top 10 or so of the best players in the world then I think Kasparov and Topalov both fit this. >Unfortunately, the emphasis on my original thread was put on the single >word "milestone", and I fear my original thread's intent will get misunderstood >and die a slow death. Aw, poor me ;( > > > > > Now if you >>want a milestone maybe the 40 move in 2 hour games with Anand will give us one.
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