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Subject: Re: Someone has no clue.

Author: John Merlino

Date: 11:23:43 04/27/02

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On April 27, 2002 at 11:45:14, pavel wrote:

>Yace 0.99.56 - Crafty 18.14
>8/8/8/R2n2NK/2kn4/P7/6r1/8 w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Yace 0.99.56:
>
>67.Rxd5 Kxd5
>  -+  (-4.56)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
>67.Ra4+ Kc3 68.Ra5 Nf4+ 69.Kh6 Kb3 70.Ne4 Nde6 71.Kh7
>  µ  (-0.79)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
>67.Ra4+ Kc3 68.Ra5 Nf4+ 69.Kh6 Kb3 70.Ne4 Nde6 71.Kh7
>  µ  (-0.79)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
>67.Nf7
>  µ  (-0.73)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
>67.Nf7
>  µ  (-0.73)   Depth: 1   00:00:00
>67.Nf7 Ne3
>  µ  (-0.74)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
>67.Nf7 Ne3
>  µ  (-0.74)   Depth: 2   00:00:00
>67.Nf7 Nf4+ 68.Kh6 Rh2+ 69.Kg7 Kd3
>  µ  (-0.79)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
>67.Nf7 Nf4+ 68.Kh6 Rh2+ 69.Kg7 Kd3
>  µ  (-0.79)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
>67.Nf7 Rh2+ 68.Kg5 Ne6+ 69.Kg4 Ne3+ 70.Kf3 Kd3
>  µ  (-0.74)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
>67.Nf7 Rh2+ 68.Kg5 Ne6+ 69.Kg4 Ne3+ 70.Kf3 Kd3
>  µ  (-0.74)   Depth: 4   00:00:00
>67.Nf7 Nf4+ 68.Kh6 Kb3 69.Kh7 Kc3
>  µ  (-0.76)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
>67.Nf7 Nf4+ 68.Kh6 Kb3 69.Kh7 Kc3
>  µ  (-0.76)   Depth: 5   00:00:00
>67.Nf7 Nf4+ 68.Kh6 Kb3 69.a4 Rh2+ 70.Kg7 Kc3
>  µ  (-0.76)   Depth: 6/16   00:00:00  53kN
>67.Nf7 Nf4+ 68.Kh6 Kb3 69.a4 Rh2+ 70.Kg7 Kc3
>  µ  (-0.76)   Depth: 6/18   00:00:00  63kN
>67.Nf7 Nf4+ 68.Kh6 Kd3 69.Ne5+ Ke4 70.Kh7 Nd5 71.Nc4
>  µ  (-0.74)   Depth: 7/18   00:00:00  360kN
>67.Nf7 Nf4+ 68.Kh6 Kd3 69.Ne5+ Ke4 70.Kh7 Nd5 71.Nc4
>  µ  (-0.74)   Depth: 7/21   00:00:00  361kN
>67.Nf7 Nf4+ 68.Kh6 Kb3 69.Ne5 Ra2 70.Kg5 Nfe6+ 71.Kf6 Rxa3
>  µ  (-0.80)   Depth: 8/21   00:00:01  839kN
>67.Ra4+ Kc3 68.Ra5 Nf4+ 69.Kh6 Kb3 70.Ne4 Nde6 71.Kh7
>  µ  (-0.79)   Depth: 8/22   00:00:01  839kN
>67.Ra4+ Kc3 68.Ra5 Nf4+ 69.Kh6 Kb3 70.Ne4 Nde6 71.Kh7
>  µ  (-0.79)   Depth: 8/22   00:00:01  839kN
>67.Ra4+ Kc3 68.Ra5 Nf4+ 69.Kh6 Kb3 70.Ne4 Nde6 71.Kh7
>  µ  (-0.79)   Depth: 8/22   00:00:01  842kN
>67.Ra4+ Kc3 68.Ra5 Nf4+ 69.Kh6 Kb3 70.Ne4 Nde6 71.Kh7
>  µ  (-0.79)   Depth: 9/22   00:00:01  843kN
>67.Ra4+ Kc3 68.Ra5 Nf4+ 69.Kh6 Kb3 70.Ne4 Nde6 71.Kh7
>  µ  (-0.79)   Depth: 9/23   00:00:01  871kN
>67.Ra4+ Kc3 68.Ra5 Nf4+ 69.Kh6 Kb3 70.Ne4 Nde6 71.Kh7
>  µ  (-0.79)   Depth: 10/23   00:00:01  871kN
>67.Ra4+ Kc3 68.Ra5 Nf4+ 69.Kh6 Kb3 70.Ne4 Nde6 71.Kh7
>  µ  (-0.79)   Depth: 10/26   00:00:02  944kN
>67.Ra4+ Kc3 68.Ra5 Nf4+ 69.Kh6 Kb3 70.Ne4 Nde6 71.Kh7
>  µ  (-0.79)   Depth: 11/26   00:00:02  1003kN
>67.Ra4+ Kc3 68.Ra5 Nf4+ 69.Kh6 Kb3 70.Ne4 Nde6 71.Kh7
>  µ  (-0.79)   Depth: 11/28   00:00:03  1509kN
>67.Ra4+ Kc3 68.Ra5 Nf4+ 69.Kh6 Kb3 70.Ne4 Nde6 71.Kh7
>  µ  (-0.79)   Depth: 12/28   00:01:07  28049kN
>
>(Mahamood, home 27.04.2002)
>
>
>
>Yace 0.99.56 - Crafty 18.14
>8/8/8/3n2NK/R1kn4/P7/6r1/8 b - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Crafty 18.14:
>
>67...Kc3
>  -+  (-5.21)   Depth: 1/4   00:00:00
>67...Kc3
>  -+  (-4.99)   Depth: 2/4   00:00:00
>67...Kd3 68.Ra6
>  -+  (-5.09)   Depth: 2/4   00:00:00
>67...Kd3 68.Ra5
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 3/5   00:00:00
>67...Kc3
>  -+  (-4.99)   Depth: 3/5   00:00:00
>67...Kc3
>  -+  (-4.99)   Depth: 4/6   00:00:00
>67...Kc3
>  -+  (-4.99)   Depth: 5/6   00:00:00
>67...Kc3
>  -+  (-4.99)   Depth: 6/6   00:00:00
>67...Kc3
>  -+  (-4.99)   Depth: 7/6   00:00:00
>67...Kc3
>  -+  (-4.99)   Depth: 8/6   00:00:00
>67...Kc3
>  -+  (-4.99)   Depth: 9/6   00:00:00
>67...Kc3
>  -+  (-4.99)   Depth: 10/6   00:00:00
>67...Kc3 68.Ra5 Nf4+ 69.Kh6 Re2 70.Kg7 Re3 71.Rc5+ Kb3 72.Rc8 Rg3 73.Kf6 Re3
>  -+  (-4.96)   Depth: 11/6   00:00:15  8644kN, tb=919
>67...Kc3 68.Ra5 Nf4+ 69.Kh6 Re2 70.Kg7 Kc4 71.Kf8 Nd5 72.Nf7 Ne6+ 73.Ke8 Nc5+
>74.Kf8 Rf2
>  -+  (-5.00)   Depth: 12/27   00:00:50  28440kN, tb=3167
>
>(Mahamood, home 27.04.2002)
>
>
>
>either Crafty or Yace doesnt understand this position
>
>Crafty i evaluating white to be -5.00 pawn down and on the other hand YACE
>thinks white is -0.79 pawn dawn. Who is right?
>
>It's an ongoing game.
>
>last time I checked they are both using TB so it shouldnt be an issue.
>
>pavs

And Chessmaster is almost exactly in the middle! This is on a PIII-733:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/3	-2.57	1450		1.a4 Nb6 2.Kg6 Ra2
0:00	1/3	-2.50	1981		1.Ra4+ Kd3 2.Kg6 Ra2
0:00	2/4	-2.59	10113		1.Ra4+ Kd3 2.Ra5 Nb6 3.Re5 Nc4
0:00	3/5	-2.62	31041		1.Ra4+ Kd3 2.Ra5 Nf4+ 3.Kh4 Ra2
					4.Kg4 Nc6
0:02	4/6	-2.68	134360		1.Ra4+ Kd3 2.Ra5 Nb6 3.Nf7 Ra2
					4.Nd6
0:06	4/6	-2.58	547964		1.Kh6 Nb6 2.Re5 Nd7 3.Re8 Nc5 4.Kg6
0:17	5/7	-2.59	1631440		1.Kh6 Nc6 2.Ra4+ Kb3 3.Ra6 Rh2+
					4.Kg7 Rc2 5.Ne4
1:00	6/8	-2.57	5703650		1.Kh6 Rh2+ 2.Kg7 Re2 3.Nf7 Rg2+
					4.Kh7 Nc6 5.Nd6+ Kd4 6.Nf5+ Ke5
					7.Ne3
4:12	7/9	-2.70	25320948	1.Kh6 Nc3 2.Nf7 Kb3 3.Nd6 Re2 4.Nf7
					Re7 5.Kg6 Re6+ 6.Kg5

jm



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