Author: blass uri
Date: 03:59:55 07/22/98
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On July 22, 1998 at 05:58:31, Mark Young wrote: >On July 22, 1998 at 04:47:09, Howard Exner wrote: > >>On July 22, 1998 at 04:08:45, Mark Young wrote: >> >>>On July 22, 1998 at 03:48:48, Howard Exner wrote: >>> >>>>On July 22, 1998 at 02:59:55, Bruce Moreland wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>>What is the milestone in Rebel vs Anand? >>>> >>>>3-1 victory in blitz match with an almost 2800 rated player. >>>>1.5-.5 victory in a game/15 match ... >>>>> >>>>>bruce >>>> >>>>Is the use of the word milestone the hurdle here? >>>> >>>>Remember, my post included this sentence: >>>> >>>>Maybe milestones is too strong a word but some kind of site would be >>>>nice that would showcase the accomplishments of the many programmers in this >>>>area of computer chess. >>>> >>>>I hoped that I made the intention clear by citing a few examples. >>>>Here are the other ones: >>>> >>>>Crafty winning a state championship >>>>Genius beating Kasparov in game/30 >>>>Listing the first micro to beat a GM >>>>The net tournament of game/30 where the computers did so well. >>>>(Wasn't Ferret part of that computer group?) >>>> >>>>Are the few examples I've given not worthy candidates of accomplishments >>>>made by chess programs? >>>>If Rebel-Anand isn't noteworthy which of the above are? >>>> >>>>I wasn't looking for some rigid test that the programs had to pass >>>>to be included. For example, I think an accomplishment would be >>>>citing some of the current ICC computer ratings. Put in an historical >>>>perspective that to me is quite an achievement. >>> >>>Right now Rebel 10's results are just that very good results. But nothing that >>>is a milestone. >> >>I've re-read my original post and while I used the catchy phrase >>"micro milestone" in the header, I clarified the intent of the post by >>words, "accomplishments" and "showcase". >> >> >> This kind of results is my book is not to unexpected. >> >>Because of the fast time control it may not be that unexpected for some, >>but still it should make the hi-light reels. >>And while, like yourself I refer to this as an accomplishment, it may well be >>a milestone for others. >> >>I can't recall another pre >>arranged match with an Anand-like player getting defeated in blitz. Sure, other >>programs could have done it if given the chance but the fact remains they >>haven't. Hey, I think I've just talked myself into thinking it is a milestone :) >> >When Chess Genius played Kasparov that was a knock out match and the time >control was longer and the computer was slower. So It has been done before. If >my memory is correct it beat Kasparov and Topalov scoring 3.5 out of 4 at game >30 before falling to Anand. I remember it did not beat Topalov but beated Nikolich Uri So if you mean by an "Anand-like" player as being in >the top 10 or so of the best players in the world then I think Kasparov and >Topalov both fit this. > >>Unfortunately, the emphasis on my original thread was put on the single >>word "milestone", and I fear my original thread's intent will get misunderstood >>and die a slow death. Aw, poor me ;( >> >> >> >> >> Now if you >>>want a milestone maybe the 40 move in 2 hour games with Anand will give us one.
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