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Subject: Re: Can your program find Rxg2?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 22:28:08 04/27/02

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On April 28, 2002 at 01:19:27, Uri Blass wrote:

>On April 27, 2002 at 18:41:28, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On April 27, 2002 at 18:12:27, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>The following position is from my last game
>>>
>>>[D]6k1/RR4p1/5p1p/4p3/8/P7/4rrPP/3K4 b - - 0 31
>>>
>>>I played 31...Rxg2 and after 32.a4 Ra2 my opponent resigned.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>After the game he said that he needed one more tempo.
>>>
>>>I said that I was lucky because I saw the idea of Rxg7+ that almost win the game
>>>only after I played 31...Rxg2.
>>>
>>>I played 31...Rxg2 fast because the move seemed to be almost forced(I did not
>>>like the idea of Rd2+ Kc1 and the idea of Ra2 with the double mate threat is
>>>gone)
>>>
>>>I also said in the anlaysis that the best was still 32.Rxg7+ Rxg7 33.Ra8+
>>>inspite of the fact that white is losing after 33...Kf7 34.Kxe2 Rg2+ because in
>>>the worst case black will need to sacrifice the rook for the a pawn when the
>>>black passed pawns are going to be srtronger than the rook.
>>>
>>>
>>>I find that some top programs cannot find 31...Rxg2
>>>for black because they do not evaluate correctly the pawn endgame.
>>>
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>It takes Chessmaster 9000 (pre-Beta) 2:05 on a PIII-600 to see Rxg2, but about a
>>minute later it discards it for Rd2+ (which turns out to be two checking moves
>>to force the White King farther away from the Black pawns BEFORE taking on g2):
>
>The problem is that the line that chessmaster suggests is not forced.
>
>31...Rd2+ 32.Kc1 Rc2+ 33.Kb1 Rxg2 34.Rxg7+ is not a forced line from white point
>of view.
>
>White can choose 32.Ke1
>
>
>Uri

I agree that 31...Rd2+ should also be enough to win but Rxg2 is the simplest
way.

Programs prefer 31...Rd2+ because they do not understand the pawn endgame.

Uri



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