Author: Howard Exner
Date: 11:56:37 07/22/98
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On July 22, 1998 at 10:21:52, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On July 22, 1998 at 03:48:48, Howard Exner wrote: > >>On July 22, 1998 at 02:59:55, Bruce Moreland wrote: >> >>> >>>What is the milestone in Rebel vs Anand? >> >>3-1 victory in blitz match with an almost 2800 rated player. >>1.5-.5 victory in a game/15 match ... >>> >>>bruce >> >>Is the use of the word milestone the hurdle here? >> >>Remember, my post included this sentence: >> >>Maybe milestones is too strong a word but some kind of site would be >>nice that would showcase the accomplishments of the many programmers in this >>area of computer chess. >> >>I hoped that I made the intention clear by citing a few examples. >>Here are the other ones: >> >>Crafty winning a state championship > > >this is wrong. In 1981 Cray Blitz won the Mississippi State Closed Chess >Championship running on a single-cpu Cray-1. It was the first victory by a >computer over a USCF-master in a tournament (40/2) time control. In this event, >it won 5 and lost 0. > >Crafty has played in one human tournament, the 1997 (or maybe 96) Pan Am held >near the University of Maryland Baltimore County campus. It was the clear >winner of this tournament with one draw in 7 rounds. Thanks for this info. I'll include both these in the list. > > > >>Genius beating Kasparov in game/30 >>Listing the first micro to beat a GM >>The net tournament of game/30 where the computers did so well. >>(Wasn't Ferret part of that computer group?) > >yes... ferret, crafty, chessmaster 5000, don't recall the others. The >significant thing was that there were computers, and there were GM players >(only) and *all* computers finished ahead of the best-finishing GM... which >was a surprise... This event too I found a big surprise. But I will include this in the computer vs human list. > >However, I don't think it was a "landmark" issue as this has become more >common in the last 2-3 years as hardware speeds have gotten so fast. My general thoughts are to include many events and then dump them back for feedback. Like you I believe they are becoming more commonplace so that is why I would find it interesting to record them as to me it still is in the pioneer stage. Also I want to avoid duplicating already existing lists from books or other websites. I definitley think a comment on computers on the net would be a nice read. To us presently it might appear mundane but in 10 years from now people would remember something like "hey did you know that X was the first computer program to challenge humans over the net" or "computer Y had a steady rating of wxyz back in 1998 - there were even some humans in the top 10!" The feedback is helping me clarify what I'm after. A photo album type of thing. > >> >>Are the few examples I've given not worthy candidates of accomplishments >>made by chess programs? >>If Rebel-Anand isn't noteworthy which of the above are? >> >>I wasn't looking for some rigid test that the programs had to pass >>to be included. For example, I think an accomplishment would be >>citing some of the current ICC computer ratings. Put in an historical >>perspective that to me is quite an achievement.
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