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Subject: Re: Micro Milestones vs Humans

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 14:42:04 07/22/98

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On July 22, 1998 at 15:44:26, Howard Exner wrote:

>I don't have an ICC account. Are the top 5 blitz players all computers?
>Is a computer number one there? If so about when did that occur?

Good question.

At this very instant it is:

3203 Vadik(GM)
3009 Vagr(GM)
2999 Ferret(C)
2951 Dlugy(GM)
2941 ban(C)

Vadik has played exactly twenty games, which is the minimum needed to get a
non-provisional rating.  Whoever this is, he played 20 games then stopped, and
hasn't played another one in the intervening three weeks.  There was another
account that did approximately the same thing, with approximately the same
rating result.  This is rumored to be Gary Kasparov.  It is easy to see Kasparov
and 3203 ICC and say to yourself that these go together naturally, but I would
like to see him play fifty games or so and see where he ends up.  He does not
play computers.

Vagr is Vladimir Akopian.  He's play 449 rated games.  I can find only one
against a computer, Crafty, which he lost.  He is currently at his all-time
high, he plays zero-increment fast games against humans apparently.

Dlugy is Maxim Dlugy.  He plays computers rarely, also preferring to play
zero-increment fast games against other humans.  His record against crafty is
+12 -31 =9, going back three years, and mainly playing zero-increment, which is
insane.  His record against Ferret is +1 -3 =3, at time controls of 5 2 and 5 3.

Ferret is my program on a Alpha 21164/533.  Ban is Junior on hardware that is
unspecified.  Ban used to be around a lot on weaker hardware, now that he
apparently has something better it will be interesting to see where he ends up,
especially if he becomes automatic and plays more or less all comers.  He's been
coming around lately, playing mainly computers, and doing very well against mine
in particular at medium-speed time controls.

It is hard to make sense out of ICC ratings.  For a while it was pretty easy to
get a computer over 3000, and now it seems to be a much more difficult thing to
do.

You see some humans over 3000, but they don't do it by playing computers, they
do it by playing other humans at fast time controls.  Seven of the top ten spots
in blitz now are humans, and ten out of the top twenty, but only a few of these
humans play computers.

In the four years that I have been on ICC/ICS, computers have always been at or
near the top of the list, but there have always been some humans up there as
well, sometimes significantly higher than the computers get, and they seem to do
this by playing really really fast stuff against other humans.

bruce



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