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Subject: Rubbish (the bottom line)

Author: Ed Schröder

Date: 01:25:34 04/30/02

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On April 29, 2002 at 22:33:28, Chessfun wrote:

>On April 29, 2002 at 21:25:21, Ratko V Tomic wrote:
>
>>Note that a single game result (3 possible values)
>>contains 1.58 bits of information. The game
>>Thorsten posted had 239 plies. If you take
>>(the commonly used estimate) an average of
>>35 legal moves at each ply, the 239 plies
>>then contain 239*log2(35)=1226 bits of
>>information.
>>
>>Thus, by retaining only the score, you would need to
>>play 773 games to accumulate as much information
>>as available in the full 239 ply sequence.
>>
>>Additionally, a human analysis by a knowledgable
>>player is not only more interesting to read than
>>391:382, but the conceptual building blocks of the
>>human analysis are seeds/patterns for creative thought,
>>vastly more useful for other humans, be it players
>>looking for strategy to use against the programs
>>or programmers looking for ways to improve their
>>programs.
>
>
>Indeed human analysis may be good if done by a knowledgeable person. Now lets
>examine Thorsten's.
>
>Header. it seems fritz7 gets out-evaluated :-))
>
>Message. this is a typical example of a game where fritz says 0.00 all the time.
>
>If that's what you consider  "a human analysis by a knowledgable player is not
>only more interesting to read than 391:382".........so be it. Personally I'll
>stick with numbers.
>
>Sarah.

Hi Sarah, Thorsten,

I am not reading CCC much these days but it was fun quickly going through all
the "rubbish" postings between the two of you, happy days are back again so to
speak.

What amazes me, the two of you want to avoid the crucial point by all means,
that is, Sarah likes Fritz, Thorsten does not. But maybe avoiding the bottom
line is just the fun, my statement is just boring and ends all discussion
whereas your way is much more entertaining.

Keep up the good work, I like you both.

Ed



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