Author: Otello Gnaramori
Date: 02:52:50 04/30/02
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On April 29, 2002 at 20:50:22, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote: >On April 29, 2002 at 19:30:53, Otello Gnaramori wrote: > >>On April 29, 2002 at 19:13:00, martin fierz wrote: >> >>>On April 29, 2002 at 18:40:59, Otello Gnaramori wrote: >>> >>>>On April 29, 2002 at 18:06:47, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>I have played in _many_ tournaments at 40/2hr time controls. I didn't >>>>>particularly "get tired" or "need sleep". A game typically doesn't last >>>>>beyond 6 hours without an adjournment at that long a time control. >>>> >>>>Are you arguing that after 6 hours of mental stress you did't get particularly >>>>tired ? >>>>I admire your mental stamina in case of positive answer :) >>>> >>>>w.b.r. >>>>Otello >>> >>>does this mean you don't play chess yourself? chess players who are tired >>>regularly after 6 hours of play probably quit chess soon... >>> >>>aloha >>> martin >> >> >>Please read Chris post on "mental fatigue" or do a search in google, then you >>will realize that there is a curve that characterizes the dynamic of mental >>fatigue in function of time. >>Obviously the performance is strictly correlated, and that's apply also in chess >>, since it's mainly an intellectual activity. >> >>Otello > >Anyone that have played serious chess knows that that the difference of quality >of a game between 60/game and 40/2hrs is H_U_G_E. I was saying in general that comps never get tired in regular matches, let's see for example the DB-Kasparov match : This is an excerpt from the IBM page at http://www.research.ibm.com/deepblue/home/may07/story_3.html: (...) Friedel, Kasparov's technical advisor was not even discouraged by the champion's inability to convert what seemed to be a winning position. "He's very tired. He would have won if he had been fresher." (...) (...) Perhaps the biggest obstacle Kasparov will have to overcome is fatigue, something that concerns Friedel deeply. "Poor Garry, he is like a kid brother to me, and it is hard for me to see how exhausted he is. It is so unfair. It is like boxing against a robot. Deep Blue comes back perfectly fresh the next day." (...) Moreover, the difference >between 40/2 hrs and 40/2.5 hrs (the good old time control) is noticeable. >This include the fatigue that you might have, which is generally little. >After the 5 or 6 hours is when you start seing more likely chances of committing >inaccuracies. That's what I was referring to...after long periods > >Your idea that computer migh earn similar strength than a human when increasing >thinking time is way wrong. You didn't understand my point, or you was misled by other people answer. To summarize humans are intense competitors, but they are still susceptible to human frailties such as fatigue, boredom and loss of concentration. w.b.r. Otello
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