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Subject: Re: Interesting Fritz 1 on a Celeron 433 Mhz search up to depth 13 !

Author: Ulrich Tuerke

Date: 05:08:28 04/30/02

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On April 30, 2002 at 07:15:01, Uri Blass wrote:

>On April 30, 2002 at 07:06:18, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:
>
>>On April 30, 2002 at 06:42:55, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On April 30, 2002 at 02:48:17, Ulrich Tuerke wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 29, 2002 at 23:55:11, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 29, 2002 at 21:28:21, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Interesting Fritz 1 on a Celeron 433 Mhz search up to depth 13, but Comet B42 on
>>>>>>the same Celeron 433 Mhz can only search up to depth 12. This is when I set it
>>>>>>up to game in 30 minutes. Of course that Comet B42 is about 350 Elo points
>>>>>>higher than Fritz 1, but Comet B42 could be optimized to search higher than 12.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Pichard.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Where have you seen that Comet is 350 elo points higher than Fritz 1.0???
>>>>
>>>>That's certainly overestimated. I 'd expect Fritz1 still being a tough opponent.
>>>>
>>>>Uli
>>>
>>>I do not know.
>>>
>>>I guess that Fritz1 was never tested on the new hardware
>>>and it is possible that some bug that is relevant only at slower
>>>time control than tournament time control on 386 prevents
>>>it to play well.
>>>
>>>I cannot know based on the data if the claim that
>>>Comet is 350 elo better than Fritz1 is correct or not correct
>>>because we cannot make conclusions based on the rating
>>>of Fritz1 on slow hardware.
>>>
>>>I know that programs may have bugs at long time control
>>>if they are not designed for it.
>>>
>>>One possible problem is that the order of moves can be wrong
>>>at long time control because the program gives score to moves
>>>based on some assumptions that are simply wrong
>>>at long time control.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>I also think, that Fritz1 can be beaten by many of today's amateurs. However, a
>>difference of 350 ELO means that Fritz1 would score essentially 0 % ?
>
>350 elo difference means more than 0%.
>
>I can avoid losing rating based on the israeli formula
>for rating if I lose 22.5-1.5 against an opponent that is
>350 elo better than me.

Agreed. 1.5-22.5 is "essentially 0" for me.  -:)

Uli


>
>The simple linear formula that is used for calculating
>the israeli rating is biased when the rating difference is big
>so the expected result for the weaker player
>is even better than 22.5-1.5.
>
>Uri



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