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Subject: Re: Smirnin Gambit Tiger

Author: Marc van Hal

Date: 16:42:01 04/30/02

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On April 30, 2002 at 17:26:46, Terry McCracken wrote:

>On April 30, 2002 at 11:08:29, Marc van Hal wrote:
>
>>On April 30, 2002 at 09:08:09, Wybe K. wrote:
>>
>>>On April 30, 2002 at 07:04:47, Marc van Hal wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 30, 2002 at 06:04:01, Marc van Hal wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I also have doubts Smirnin real knew what was going on in these games by
>>>>> reading his coments.
>>>
>>>Horrible, Smirnin is a 2700+ ELO GM and he doesn't know what to do ?
>>>So, maybe you've to announce an intellectual match against CM 8000 (with the
>>>Smirnin pers.) Walk on Marc.
>>>
>>>All the best, Wybe
>>>
>>>BTW what an exciting game it was.
>>
>>Who is the one who believes in fantasy you or me?
>>I already pointed out Sminin did not think here
>>I also said you could check it before giving coments
>>Just set up the book moves from the game
>>And watch at the result of Botvinikpersonelety versus Gambit Tiger
>>I can asure you it's the same.
>>He simly played from out memory (By knowing the end result of a computer
>>computer game without watching the corectness of these moves)
>>I think that many IM's and GM's who are realy dedicated to the game would suport
>>this.
>>Kasparov would say so it is posible to win from a chessprogram by making bad
>>moves.
>>And also would give coments on the vague coments givven by Smirnin.(Just like I
>>did)
>>Kasparov does not want to play against programs because of the reason that he
>>loves the game to much to destroy it with nonsens at all costs.
>>Which program on Which hardware plays doesn't mather aslong as you know the end
>>result of games which where played by these programs.
>>And like I said Botvinik versus Gambit Tiger 2 on a 800MHZ machine gave the same
>>end result as on a 2Gighz machine with the exeption that the Botvinik
>>personelety might change moves(Which I doubt).
>>I also can show you games which where realy briliant instead of this sherade if
>>you look it from a chessprograms point of vieuw.
>>Then again if you prefer to believe in lies your free to do so.
>>It only doesn't look to smart.
>>It looks like the thinking lines off a chessprogram it doesn't realy learn
>>something from it's mistakes
>>and does therefor not admit them!
>>I even would prefer the game he won against Schredder
>>Which is of more theoretical valeu.
>>Regards                      a real chessplayer  Marc
>
>
>So you're claiming that all these games were worked out by Smirin ahead of time,
>move by move?
>
>That would be fantasy, indeed!:o)
>
>Terry

Said the fool
Marc



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