Author: Slater Wold
Date: 21:36:32 04/30/02
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On May 01, 2002 at 00:12:15, maria clara benedicto wrote: >good idea. > >if ever, only few people deveote 20 comuters many weeks. People here devote their computers to chess many hours of the day, 365 days a year. And this is their hobby. >and, if they have 20 comuters, many weeks time to weed out bad lines, >why dont they just create their own books? 2 computers, playing against each, can play 12 G/60 games a day. 12 * 10 = 120 games. 10 days and you have 1,200 games. More than likely a LOT more. Maybe 2,000. As most G/60 games last about 1 hour and 15 minutes. And if you set it to resign at down 5 pawns, maybe 2400 games. That's enough I think. All in 10 days. >straight to the ppoint. make their own books. save time,yes? Save money, YES. Save time, NO. And they will NEVER get the quality of a Rebel book. >instead copy illegal mvs book to convert to their own. > >juat wonddering > >regards. > >maria clara benedicto > > >On April 30, 2002 at 23:45:28, Slater Wold wrote: > >>On April 30, 2002 at 17:24:20, Vine Smith wrote: >> >>>On April 30, 2002 at 16:16:16, Dann Corbit wrote: >>> >>>>On April 30, 2002 at 16:01:33, Slater Wold wrote: >>>>>I can understand your frustration. You've worked just as hard as Ed or >>>>>Christophe on Rebel/Tiger. No doubt your books add a considerable amount of Elo >>>>>to these programs, and I am sure Ed and Christophe are very appreciative of >>>>>that. >>>>> >>>>>However, I must warn you that laying claim to a series of chess opening moves is >>>>>not going to be easy to defend. You cannot copyright moves in chess, as you >>>>>cannot copyright dance moves. While you can copyright a mvs book, you are >>>>>actually only copyrighting the format. Again, you cannot copyright chess moves. >>>>> >>>>>I think anyone found 'hacking' a chess program, or its book, should face a >>>>>severe punishment. Anyone claiming something is their, when in fact it is not, >>>>>should be punished. >>>>> >>>>>I am not defending these people, I am simply stating the fact that it would be >>>>>easier to encrypt the books, than to go after those stealing it. >>>> >>>>While you cannot copyright chess moves, you can copyright a particular >>>>collection as a whole. (For example, a book of analysis about Bobby Fischer's >>>>chess games can be copyrighted). >>>> >>>>I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know what the repercussions are for an opening >>>>book. But it is pretty clear that you should not simply use someone's work and >>>>claim that it is yours. >>> >>>A similar problem exists in the field of cartography, where the information >>>conveyed by a map is public domain, but its assemblage and presentation is not. >>>One approach that has been used is to include trivial, but fictitious geographic >>>elements in the map, such as small towns or lakes that don't actually exist -- >>>if your map is substantially swiped, the inclusion of these fictitious elements >>>in the copy is proof positive of plagiarism. Perhaps authors of chess program >>>books should do the same. In each significant opening, a "false" line full of >>>outrageously bad moves could be included, and the program would be "hard coded" >>>not to use them (as opposed to marking them in some way in the book itself, >>>which would be too obvious). Finding these lines in another book would >>>constitute quick and conclusive proof of intellectual theft; whether this could >>>be used for legal purposes is not clear to me, but certainly the offender could >>>be dealt with by the ICCA and other organizations according to their rules. >> >>Good idea. >> >>However, there are people who setup 20 computers to play through their books for >>weeks at a time. This would probably get rid of 99% of those bad lines.
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