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Subject: Re: Unauthorized use of Rebel books

Author: Michael Williams

Date: 22:21:05 04/30/02

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On April 30, 2002 at 16:01:33, Slater Wold wrote:

>On April 30, 2002 at 14:42:50, Jeroen Noomen wrote:
>
>>During the last 6 - 12 months I have noticed a trend that there are very clear
>>indications that non-commercial programmers of chess programs make use of (parts
>>of) commercially available books. As I was in Maastricht during the WMCCC in
>>2001, lots of speculations and complaints were heard about this topic.  From
>>several sources I know that also the Rebel books have been ‘hacked’ by people (I
>>will not mention their names, I am sure they know themselves whom I am talking
>>about). As the Rebel books are my lifework I want to put a very clear statement
>>in this forum.
>>
>>The Rebel books have been developped by me during a period of almost 14 years.
>>Not only is it handmade, it also contains lots of stuff you will not find in
>>other books. In the past it has happenend a few times that chess programs were
>>caught as not being made by the programmer himself. Examples are Quick Step back
>>in 1989, Greif, the several Crafty clones. As we can see from todays rules by
>>the ICCA, such programs are not tolerated anymore. And in my view this is fully
>>correct.
>>
>>Jeroen Noomen
>>Bookauthor for Rebel and Chess Tiger
>
>I can understand your frustration.  You've worked just as hard as Ed or
>Christophe on Rebel/Tiger.  No doubt your books add a considerable amount of Elo
>to these programs, and I am sure Ed and Christophe are very appreciative of
>that.
>
>However, I must warn you that laying claim to a series of chess opening moves is
>not going to be easy to defend.  You cannot copyright moves in chess, as you
>cannot copyright dance moves.  While you can copyright a mvs book, you are
>actually only copyrighting the format.  Again, you cannot copyright chess moves.
>
>I think anyone found 'hacking' a chess program, or its book, should face a
>severe punishment. Anyone claiming something is their, when in fact it is not,
>should be punished.
>
>I am not defending these people, I am simply stating the fact that it would be
>easier to encrypt the books, than to go after those stealing it.

You should be able to copyright chess moves in a specific context just as you
should be able to copyright musical notes in a specific arrangement, sequence
and context.  Similar arguments exist for code.

The difficulty in defending a position does not affect the justifiability of
defending a position.



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