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Subject: Re: Unauthorized use of Rebel books

Author: Miguel A. Ballicora

Date: 06:17:13 05/01/02

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On May 01, 2002 at 09:08:16, Jeroen Noomen wrote:

>On May 01, 2002 at 06:19:35, Mike S. wrote:
>
>Take the following exampe: I buy MS Office, use the very same look, buttons,
>screens etc. to make a software package that is very much the same, tell the
>world 'Yes, I used MS Office to make this beautiful new package'. You think this
>is legal? I bet you would receive a 'threatening' letter by MS immediately. And
>rightly so.

He was talking about "using" the bought software (in a competition), not making
it part of another package to sell or distribute. Is there anything in the
license that avoid using the software to support another engine? Is not that
even a "feature" in some packages? I do not see anything illegal. The matter
here are rules in a tournament and not copyright rules.

Miguel


>
>Jeroen
>
>>On May 01, 2002 at 03:24:25, Jeroen Noomen wrote:
>>
>>>(...)
>>>Just attend to my home one time, and I will show you what work and knowledge
>>>REALLY is necessary.
>>
>>This is your point, but not what Russel was talking about.
>>
>>There's no doubt that much work and knowledge is necessary to create a good
>>opening book, but you can't claim rights on chess moves. I.e. if a Rebel program
>>plays an opening line with your book and the game is published, that line might
>>appear in various books people create from games collections. Has a part of your
>>book been stolen by that?
>>
>>But something else I wanted to ask: What if a normal customer (and programmer),
>>who has bought a Rebel program including your book, uses it to support his own
>>engine in a big tournament? He says, if have bought this software, and I use it
>>legally.
>>
>>What about that?
>>
>>I'm not talking about people who take parts of your book and offer it as their
>>own work (that's obviously not ok), but cases where somebody could say "Yes, I
>>use the Noomen openings which I've paid for when buying Rebel Century (for
>>example), for the games my engine XY plays in that tournament." Is this illegal
>>(in terms of law)?
>>
>>I've asked the question before:
>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?227217
>>
>>Regards,
>>M.Scheidl



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