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Subject: Re: Unauthorized use of Rebel books

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 09:47:25 05/01/02

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On May 01, 2002 at 07:31:25, Marc van Hal wrote:

>On April 30, 2002 at 23:28:59, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On April 30, 2002 at 17:52:01, Ed Schröder wrote:
>>
>>>On April 30, 2002 at 16:31:01, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>>>
>>>>This isn't a copyright issue, its not even a legal issue in the traditional
>>>>sense.  It is about the rules for a particular competition, namely the ICCA
>>>>World Computer Chess Championship.  If the rules say that you can't use someone
>>>>elses book in the tournament (and its not even clear that they do say this),
>>>>then you can't use someone elses book regardless of what copyright says.
>>>
>>>You have understood the problem, you are not going to fight your own opening
>>>book in world championship event.
>>>
>>>Ed
>>>
>>
>>Of course, this begs the _other_ issue.  Do I have to "fight" Jeroen's book
>>_two_ times in a single tournament?  That hardly seems fair either.  Yet he
>>does the book for Rebel and Tiger...
>
>>I think it is fair (talking about the upcomming version of Tiger).
>If Jeroen has givven both programs his authorisation of using this book and if
>they are registered in this way.
>
>
>Regards              Marc
>>


Then can I not give someone permission to use my search and evaluation in a
program to get multiple copies of "crafty" into a tournament???  The GUI would
be different.

The opening book typically supplies 15-20 moves.  That is typically 50% of
the _entire_ game, since most games are decided by move 40 (perhaps leaving
some mop-up to go of course).

Isn't 50% a major contribution?  Isn't using that in more than one engine
very much like using the _same_ engine for half of the game???




>>
>>
>>>>Of course ICCA can't send you to jail if you break their rules :-)  But they can
>>>>chuck you out of their tournament.



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