Author: Mike Hood
Date: 13:54:48 05/01/02
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On April 30, 2002 at 08:08:28, Ulrich Tuerke wrote: >On April 30, 2002 at 07:15:01, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On April 30, 2002 at 07:06:18, Ulrich Tuerke wrote: >> >>>On April 30, 2002 at 06:42:55, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On April 30, 2002 at 02:48:17, Ulrich Tuerke wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 29, 2002 at 23:55:11, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On April 29, 2002 at 21:28:21, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Interesting Fritz 1 on a Celeron 433 Mhz search up to depth 13, but Comet B42 on >>>>>>>the same Celeron 433 Mhz can only search up to depth 12. This is when I set it >>>>>>>up to game in 30 minutes. Of course that Comet B42 is about 350 Elo points >>>>>>>higher than Fritz 1, but Comet B42 could be optimized to search higher than 12. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Pichard. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Where have you seen that Comet is 350 elo points higher than Fritz 1.0??? >>>>> >>>>>That's certainly overestimated. I 'd expect Fritz1 still being a tough opponent. >>>>> >>>>>Uli >>>> >>>>I do not know. >>>> >>>>I guess that Fritz1 was never tested on the new hardware >>>>and it is possible that some bug that is relevant only at slower >>>>time control than tournament time control on 386 prevents >>>>it to play well. >>>> >>>>I cannot know based on the data if the claim that >>>>Comet is 350 elo better than Fritz1 is correct or not correct >>>>because we cannot make conclusions based on the rating >>>>of Fritz1 on slow hardware. >>>> >>>>I know that programs may have bugs at long time control >>>>if they are not designed for it. >>>> >>>>One possible problem is that the order of moves can be wrong >>>>at long time control because the program gives score to moves >>>>based on some assumptions that are simply wrong >>>>at long time control. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>I also think, that Fritz1 can be beaten by many of today's amateurs. However, a >>>difference of 350 ELO means that Fritz1 would score essentially 0 % ? >> >>350 elo difference means more than 0%. >> >>I can avoid losing rating based on the israeli formula >>for rating if I lose 22.5-1.5 against an opponent that is >>350 elo better than me. > >Agreed. 1.5-22.5 is "essentially 0" for me. -:) > >Uli > > >> >>The simple linear formula that is used for calculating >>the israeli rating is biased when the rating difference is big >>so the expected result for the weaker player >>is even better than 22.5-1.5. >> >>Uri Fritz 1 seems strong to me, but it has serious problems in its time management algorithm. I've played several 60 minute Blitz games against it where it was in a clearly winning position, but it lost on time.
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