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Subject: Re: Question about Battle Chess

Author: Joshua Lee

Date: 04:58:48 05/02/02

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On May 01, 2002 at 12:39:52, John Merlino wrote:

>On May 01, 2002 at 01:35:10, Joshua Lee wrote:
>
>>On April 30, 2002 at 15:31:02, John Merlino wrote:
>>
>>>On April 30, 2002 at 15:24:34, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote:
>>>
>>>>On April 30, 2002 at 15:10:08, John Merlino wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On April 30, 2002 at 11:23:53, Joshua Lee wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Since People out there seem to like older programs for aesthetic reasons, I've
>>>>>>decided to mention Battle Chess for Nintendo and ChessMaster for Game
>>>>>>Gear/GameBoy. I don't know how these compare to their PC counterparts other than
>>>>>>the obvious Speed Gap but maybe someone can shed some light on what versions are
>>>>>>they. Is ChessMaster for Gameboy the same as chessmaster 2000 or some other
>>>>>>chessmaster? What about the gamegear chessmaster which came out much much
>>>>>>earlier? What of Battle Chess? It seems to take around 2-3 minutes on level 4
>>>>>>and while it is no match for Fritz, it does appear to be making 3ply searches. I
>>>>>>figure this because the errors in games i played against it, and that fritz 7
>>>>>>set to fixed depth starts to disagree alot from 3ply and up.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm not sure which engine is in the Chessmaster GB version (the manual does not
>>>>>say and I don't have a GB to test it on), but I would guess that, even on the
>>>>>strongest (i.e. the longest) setting, it doesn't play much above 1600, if at
>>>>>all.
>>>>>
>>>>>jm
>>>>
>>>>IMHO, CM for gameboy would be absolutely great, unfortunately you should go
>>>>through a painful setup before playing (that cannot easily saved). That kills
>>>>the whole purpose for kids... like me :-)
>>>>
>>>>painful for kids that they do not know exactly what to choose.
>>>>
>>>>Regards,
>>>>Miguel
>>>
>>>Well, thankfully, a GameBoy Advance version is due to be released in about 2-3
>>>months.
>>>
>>>jm
>>
>>What i do know is that the new chessmaster for Gameboy Advance is supposed to be
>>Chessmaster 8000. What i don't get however is that with all of it's knowledge
>>wouldn't the same PC program be painfully slow on the 16Mhz Advance?
>>The Chessmaster for Gameboy color (i use on the old Gameboy) at 4.194304Mhz
>>searches 80-135 positions per second! With an average of 90 positions a second
>>and the Depth i've seen was 6 ply.  That would put it at 21870nodes per second
>>on a 1Ghz processor except that's compared to a 6502 and with the obvious memory
>>limit how could you have enough to run even just the regular CM8000 engine.
>
>You don't know that it is the same engine in CM8000, because it isn't. I don't
>know for sure what engine is in there (I suspect that it is the same engine that
>is in the GB color version, although it might be a much earlier version of The
>King). But I DO know that it is not the same engine as in CM8000.
>
>jm

Then why are they calling the new Gameboy Advance version Chessmaster 8000?
http://www.gamer.uk.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=GBOYADV&item=gboyadv111&type=store

I did see a UBI soft press release somewhere but can't find it at the moment.




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