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Subject: Re: SSDF level?

Author: Otello Gnaramori

Date: 06:48:44 05/02/02

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On May 02, 2002 at 09:01:56, Chris Carson wrote:

>On May 02, 2002 at 07:06:16, Jouni Uski wrote:
>
>>On May 02, 2002 at 06:57:35, Chris Carson wrote:
>>
>>>On May 02, 2002 at 06:10:55, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>
>>>>It seems, that SSDF 40/2 ratings need again 50-100 points lowering. Hmm. how
>>>>many times that has been done already? And will oldest computers soon have
>>>>negative
>>>>rating then? Or does this prove, that comp-comp play exaggerates differences...
>>>>
>>>>Jouni
>>>
>>>It has been calibrated twice and changed once that I know about.
>>>
>>>I hope the old computers do not go negative, that would be a huge adjustment. ;)
>>>
>>>Calibration between different pools of participants may need to be recalibrated,
>>>this is true for humans and machines.  I am not sure the lists are out of sync,
>>>I will take a look and come back with the results.
>>>
>>>I think the SSDF cosiders human results and compares to current SSDF list, my
>>>guess is that some of the comps SSDF rating will be above the human ELO
>>>performance and some will be below.  We will see.
>>
>>Sadly abovementioned games were not 40/2. I quess, that at this level humans are
>>better - for that reason I quess we need 50 points lowering.
>>
>>Jouni
>
>I can not say if any adjustment should be considered.  I will take a look, but I
>am sure, it will only be preliminary.  Also, at first glance, Fritz and Hiarcs
>look to be above, Junior may be close, Shredder and GTiger may be below.  There
>is no additional data on GTiger, so that one may not have any relevance at this
>time.  We will see and ofcourse I will show Program/HW/TPR/SSDF/Time Control.  I
>will try to get this done sometime today or tomorrow, however, it is in my off
>hours that I do this, so something might come up and delay the posting.
>

Thanks a lot for your contribution Chris.

>I would say that the comps and GM's were competitive with each other, however,
>each has weakness that can be exploited by the other, which is why it is still
>interesting.

That's a profound truth.

>It may not be competitive with mid 2600 GM's 3 years from now.

And that's a "scary" prospective... ;)

w.b.r.
Otello



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