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Subject: Re: King safety test position

Author: Dieter Buerssner

Date: 10:24:44 05/02/02

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On May 02, 2002 at 12:01:25, Brian Richardson wrote:

>On May 02, 2002 at 11:40:57, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>This isn't a "king safety" position.  It is a pure tactical position:
>
>It might be king safety related.  Tinker also finds Nxh5 in about the same time
>on my laptop as Crafty does.  However, when using only material and piece square
>tables in a "fast eval" mode, Tinker does not find the move after a couple of
>minutes.  Gerbil (v1 and v2) does not find it either.  So, an eval with king
>safety terms is a factor (Gerbil v2 has some, but not enough I guess).

Yace is a bit in between. It finds it at bigger depth with material only
evaluation, but it is not a huge difference.

Default settings, hash 20M, K6 2 475:

    644127   5.367   0.08  7t  43. Bxe5 Rxe5 44. Nd4 Bd7 45. Qf4 b4 46. Nge2
                               Ra3 {0}
    944848   7.686   0.09  7t+ 43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Bxf6 45. Rxf6 Nxf6 46.
                               Qg5+ Kh7 47. Bxf6 Re7 48. Bxe7H Nxe4H 49.
                               Bxe4+H {270}
   1149235   9.348   0.20  7t  43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Qd8 45. Qh6+ Kh8 46.
                               Bxe5 dxe5 47. Qxh5 Rg8 {-100}
   1252766  10.125   0.20  7.  43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Qd8 45. Qh6+ Kh8 46.
                               Bxe5 dxe5 47. Qxh5 Rg8 {-100}
   1668585  13.208   0.60  8++ 43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Qd8 45. Qh6+ Kh8 46.
                               Bxe5 dxe5 47. Rf7 Qxh4+ 48. Kg1 Qe7 49. Rxe7H
                               {741}
   2607355  21.941   1.60  8++ 43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Qd8 45. Bxe5 dxe5 46.
                               Qh6+ Kh8 47. Rf7 b4 48. Rxh7+ Kg8 {160}
   6464865  51.934   5.70  8t  43. Nxh5+ Kh8 44. Nxf6 Re7 45. Qh6 Be6 46. dxe6
                               Bxd4 47. Nxd4 {510}
   6840647  53.963   5.70  8.  43. Nxh5+ Kh8 44. Nxf6 Re7 45. Qh6 Be6 46. dxe6
                               Bxd4 47. Nxd4 {510}

material only:

    681883   3.923   0.00  8t  43. Bxe5 dxe5 44. Rf3 Rd8 45. R3f2 Nd3 46. Rf3
                               Bg4 47. Re3 {0}
   1381462   7.686   0.01  8t+ 43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Qd8 45. Bxe5 dxe5 46.
                               Qh6+ Kh8 47. Rf7 Bg4 48. Rxh7+ Kg8 {160}
   1785945  10.035   0.40  8++ 43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Qd8 45. Bxe5 dxe5 46.
                               Qh6+ Kh8 47. Rf7 Bg4 48. Rxh7+ Kg8 {160}
   2421157  14.021   1.40  8++ 43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Qd8 45. Bxe5 Kg8 46.
                               Qh6 Kh8 47. Rxd6+ Kg8 {250}
   3666662  21.011   2.41  8t  43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Qd8 45. Bxe5 Nxf6 46.
                               Bxf6+ Qxf6 47. Rxf6 Kxf6 48. Qh6+ Kf7 49. Qxh5+
                               Kf8 {241}
   3853232  21.971   2.41  8.  43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Qd8 45. Bxe5 Nxf6 46.
                               Bxf6+ Qxf6 47. Rxf6 Kxf6 48. Qh6+ Kf7 49. Qxh5+
                               Kf8 {241}
   6761781  38.064   2.81  9++ 43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Qd8 45. Bxe5 Nxf6 46.
                               Rxf6 Kg8 47. Qh6 Qd7 48. Qg6+ Qg7 49. Qxe8+ Qf8
                               {510}
   8884779  50.607   3.81  9++ 43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Qd8 45. Bxe5 Nxf6 46.
                               Rxf6 Kg8 47. Qh6 Qd7 48. Qg6+ Qg7 49. Qxe8+ Qf8
                               {510}
  17274770  1:36.3   5.00  9t  43. Nxh5+ Kh8 44. Nxf6 Bxd4 45. Qxd4 Re5 46.
                               Nxh7 Bg4 47. Rf8+ Kg7 48. R1f7+H Kh6H 49. Nf4H
                               Ra7H {HT} {500}

But extensions play (not surprisingly) also a big role. Disabling check
extensions:

  2850292  26.486   0.02  9t  43. Bxe5 Rxe5 44. Nd4 Bd7 45. Qf4 Ra3 46. Nge2
                              Bg4 {HT} {0}
  3471904  31.946   0.03  9t+ 43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Kg8 45. Bxe5 Rxe5 46.
                              Rg6+ Kh8 47. Qh6 Rxa2 {-260}
  3806313  35.212   0.39  9t  43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Qd8 45. Qh6+ Kh8 46.
                              Qxh5 Bg4 47. Rxd6 Bxh5 48. Rxd8 Rxd8 49. Bxe5+
                              Kg8 {-170}
  4063253  37.615   0.39  9.  43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Qd8 45. Qh6+ Kh8 46.
                              Qxh5 Bg4 47. Rxd6 Bxh5 48. Rxd8 Rxd8 49. Bxe5+
                              Kg8 {-170}
  5061264  46.067   0.39 10t  43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Qd8 45. Qh6+ Kh8 46.
                              Qxh5 Bg4 47. Rxd6 Bxh5 48. Rxd8 {HT} {-20}
  8076545  1:15.1   0.39 10.  43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Qd8 45. Qh6+ Kh8 46.
                              Qxh5 Bg4 47. Rxd6 Bxh5 48. Rxd8 {HT} {-20}
 10587094  1:38.8   0.79 11++ 43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Qd8 45. Qh6+ Kh8 46.
                              Bxe5 dxe5 47. Rf7 Nxe4 48. Rxh7+ Kg8 {80}
 14158147  2:15.2   1.79 11++ 43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Qd8 45. Qh6+ Kh8 46.
                              Bxe5 dxe5 47. Rf7 Rxa2 48. Bxa2 Kg8 {240}
 20828639  3:24.6   3.86 11t  43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Bxf6 45. Rxf6 Nxf6 46.
                              Qg5+ Kh7 47. Bxf6 Qc7H 48. e5+H Nd3H {HT} {-490}

same with material only:

   3958841  22.080   0.00 10.  43. Bxe5 dxe5 44. Rg1 Nd3 45. Rf3 Nf2+ 46. Kh2
                               Kg8 47. d6 Ra3 48. d7 Ng4+ 49. Kh1 {0}
   7295650  40.930   0.00 11t  43. Bxe5 dxe5 44. Rf3 Nd3 45. Re3 Kh8 46. Bxd3
                               cxd3 47. Rxd3 f5 48. d6 Bd7 {HT} {70}
  11072761  1:03.1   0.01 11t+ 43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Qd8 45. Qh6+ Kh8 46.
                               Bxe5 dxe5 47. Rf7 Qd7 48. Rxd7 Nxd7 {321}
  13477591  1:18.2   0.40 11++ 43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Qd8 45. Qh6+ Kh8 46.
                               Bxe5 dxe5 47. Rf7 Qd7 48. Rxd7 Nxd7 {321}
  16919720  1:39.5   0.90 11t  43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Nxf6 45. Qg5+ Kh7 46.
                               Rxf6 Bxf6 47. Bxf6 Re7 48. Qxh5+ Kg8 {HT} {-410}
  18980925  1:51.4   0.90 11.  43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Nxf6 45. Qg5+ Kh7 46.
                               Rxf6 Bxf6 47. Bxf6 Re7 48. Qxh5+ Kg8 {HT} {-410}
  30552587  2:56.2   1.30 12++ 43. Nxh5+ gxh5 44. Rxf6 Nxf6 45. Qg5+ Kh7 46.
                               Rxf6 Bxf6 47. Bxf6 Rxa2 48. Bxa2 Re7 49. Bxe7
                               Nd3 {430}

Regards,
Dieter













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