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Subject: Re: Unauthorized use of Rebel books

Author: Marc van Hal

Date: 16:40:18 05/02/02

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On May 01, 2002 at 12:44:55, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On May 01, 2002 at 01:49:48, Peter McKenzie wrote:
>
>><snip>
>>>>And you cannot copyright a "collection" of games.  For example, say someone
>>>>published a book (actual paperback book) with 300 Fischer games (no comments,
>>>>nothing.  Just the games.) and was selling this book for $50.  And then someone
>>>>else came along and published a book with the same exact 300 games, (in a
>>>>different cover and style) for $25.  There is *NOTHING* that first person can
>>>>do.  The Fischer games do NOT belong to him.
>>>
>>>Sorry, but this is wrong.  IE I can _definitely_ copyright a collection such
>>>as "Fischer's games where he used the theme 'xxxxx' to break through".  All
>>>that copyright law requires is that I do some sort of "work" in putting the
>>>collection together.  Just filtering all of Fischer's games won't fly.  But
>>>"Fischer's 100 greatest games" is definitely copyrightable as that is a subset
>>>of all the games he played and it required work/effort on my part to extract
>>>just the games I thought important or related...
>>
>>Now you've got me curious ... isn't there a file distributed with winboard which
>>contains Fischer's 60 Memorable Games?  Ie. the same games that are in the
>>famous book of the same name?
>
>I don't know.  If it is combined with other stuff then I don't see how it
>would be a problem.  IE it is _the_ "collection" that is somehow unique.  But
>someone spent some time choosing those games from all the games he played.  It
>would seem that effort is protected, IMHO...
>
>>
>>Is Tim Mann breaking copyright?  Or perhaps he got permission from the
>>publisher?  (this seems unlikely since they recently republished the book)
>>
>>Also, what about test suites such as WAC which originated from a Fred Reinfeld
>>book I think.
>>
>>Peter
>
>Good question...  I suspect that could definitely be a problem since each
>position and solution represents a lot of work...

If you make analyses from these games and sell thenm in that way it simply is
something what many authors do.
And most of the time for more not less money because the games are anotated.
Regards Marc



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