Author: Marc van Hal
Date: 16:56:50 05/02/02
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On May 01, 2002 at 12:47:25, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On May 01, 2002 at 07:31:25, Marc van Hal wrote: > >>On April 30, 2002 at 23:28:59, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On April 30, 2002 at 17:52:01, Ed Schröder wrote: >>> >>>>On April 30, 2002 at 16:31:01, Peter McKenzie wrote: >>>> >>>>>This isn't a copyright issue, its not even a legal issue in the traditional >>>>>sense. It is about the rules for a particular competition, namely the ICCA >>>>>World Computer Chess Championship. If the rules say that you can't use someone >>>>>elses book in the tournament (and its not even clear that they do say this), >>>>>then you can't use someone elses book regardless of what copyright says. >>>> >>>>You have understood the problem, you are not going to fight your own opening >>>>book in world championship event. >>>> >>>>Ed >>>> >>> >>>Of course, this begs the _other_ issue. Do I have to "fight" Jeroen's book >>>_two_ times in a single tournament? That hardly seems fair either. Yet he >>>does the book for Rebel and Tiger... >> >>>I think it is fair (talking about the upcomming version of Tiger). >>If Jeroen has givven both programs his authorisation of using this book and if >>they are registered in this way. >> >> >>Regards Marc >>> > > >Then can I not give someone permission to use my search and evaluation in a >program to get multiple copies of "crafty" into a tournament??? The GUI would >be different. > >The opening book typically supplies 15-20 moves. That is typically 50% of >the _entire_ game, since most games are decided by move 40 (perhaps leaving >some mop-up to go of course). > >Isn't 50% a major contribution? Isn't using that in more than one engine >very much like using the _same_ engine for half of the game??? > >Not it is not the same as using diferent copy's of 1 programin that tournament >Because there are 2 diferent authors with 2 diferent engines the out come of these games will not always the same >because of the engines It would be the same if someone else changed crafty and did get the full authorship over the engine. Marc >>> >>> >>>>>Of course ICCA can't send you to jail if you break their rules :-) But they can >>>>>chuck you out of their tournament.
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