Author: Uri Blass
Date: 07:21:24 05/03/02
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On May 03, 2002 at 09:53:31, George Sobala wrote: >On May 03, 2002 at 03:29:44, Kurt Utzinger wrote: > >>On May 03, 2002 at 02:53:25, George Sobala wrote: >> >>>My very preliminary and unscientific assessment of Hiarcs8: the engine possesses >>>certain human-like qualities when playing against other engines, (Fritz 6 to be >>>precise) >>> >>>That is: >>> >>>1. It does better the longer the time control. >>> >>>2. It does not do well (+5 -9 =7) in a match (20+0) from the Nunn2 positions - >>>which are tactically sharp. It does much better when playing from its opening >>>book. >> >>Why should the inability of Hiarcs8 to understand the Nunn2 positions be a prove >>of human-like quality? If so, the contrary is the case, since an average human >>player is more or less able to find a sound plan in the Nunn2 positions even he >>does not know the opening. >>Kurt > >I see your point. But as a human - what sort of position against Fritz would you >prefer, or expect to do better with - a tactically sharp one or a positional >one? > >It is interesting how poorly Hiarcs8 seemed to do against Fritz6 in the Nunn2 >positions - to compare with the above result, Hiarcs just achieved +8 -3 =0 >against Fritz6 on the same machine (Duron 800), but this time both engines used >their own opening books (at 10+0, though). Perhaps Fritz6 is better in seeing >its way through tactically complex positions, Hiarcs prefers to accumulate small >advantages. Of course the first match result could have been a statistical >freak. Your reply suggest that you do not see his point. He claims that hiarcs was unable to find a positional plan in the nunn2 match that an average human has no problem to see. He did not claim that hiarcs was unable to find tactical ideas. I also do not see how +8 -3 against Fritz6 at 10 0 suggests that hiarcs is doing better at longer time control. This is a fantastic result in blitz time control. I guess that hiarcs was lucky because you need to be clearly better than Fritz7 to expect 8-3 against Fritz6 and Hiarcs8 is not clearly better than Fritz7 based on other posts and it even lost 2-0 against yace at time control that is clearly slower than 10 0 and yace is clearly weaker than Fritz7. Uri
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