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Subject: Re: Nunn test questions / help please

Author: Ferdinand S. Mosca

Date: 14:23:34 05/03/02

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On May 03, 2002 at 15:52:20, James T. Walker wrote:

>I've been looking at the Nunn test positions and I have some questions.  In the
>Fritz database they are provided as 10 positions.  Why is the first position
>listed with "line" and the rest have either "1-0 or 0-1"?  Are these the
>expected results?

Hello James,

I expect it is the expected results.

>In the Nunn2 test positions they are all listed with "line".

Yes and according to GM Nunn, those positions are from a practical games where
one side's winning frequency is not greater than 60-40. I still guess that one
side has the upper hand but only minimal, but of course it is interesting, maybe
engines will be able to find a promising plan/novelties through continuous test
and learning, like the following position from a game Chess Tiger 14-Junior 7,
from OP 2002 published by Kurt.
Chess Tiger here played Bc1, which I think is a novelty,
more common here is Bf2 with queenside play to follow.
[D]r1bqnrk1/ppp1n1bp/3p2p1/3Pp3/2P1Pp2/2N1BP2/PP2B1PP/R2QNRK1 w - - 0 12
Is Bc1 reasonable? now look what happened to the game, is that line playable
against a human opponent?

>If in the first case they are not expected results and they are considered equal
>positions I guess they should all show "line" as a result.  I would like to make
>an opening book for testing using the Nunn positions.  How can I make Chessbase
>programs use each position when I want it to instead of random selection as
>would be the case normally?  Of course the reason for this is to facilitate
>running test using auto232.  Should I make one book out of each position and use
>that book for each test?

I think so one book for each position.

Dinan

Maybe I have answered my own question  for that part!?
> The reason is I don't like "engine/engine" test with pondering off.  Since I
>have 2 computers and auto232 I prefer to test that way.
>Thanks for any help.
>Jim



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