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Subject: Re: Computer chess vs. computer checkers and other games

Author: Timothy J. Frohlick

Date: 22:27:38 05/03/02

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Russell,

Martin Fierz is a great checkers computer programmer.  His site is most
comprehensive.  He posts at this site regularly.


http://www.fierz.ch/checkers.htm


Enjoy,

Tim Frohlick
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On May 04, 2002 at 00:58:59, Russell Reagan wrote:

>I'm curious if anyone knows anything about the computer checkers scene. I know
>about computer chess, how chess programs work, how good chess programs are
>compared to the best human chess players, etc. and would like to find out about
>checkers programs. I know that (for example) go programs aren't anywhere close
>to master strength. So are checkers programs as good as the best master checkers
>players? I would guess that checkers would probably use some of the same basic
>methods as a chess program, such as search and evaluation, but are there any
>special methods that a checkers program would use that chess programs don't? Or
>any methods a chess program uses that a checkers program wouldn't use
>successfully?
>
>I've only recently started playing checkers to get a feel for the game, but it
>seems like there are a great number of positions where zugzwang occurs and so
>null move probably wouldn't work in checkers, or maybe it would need
>modifications. I'm mainly interested in checkers programs and that whole
>"scene", but also if anyone has any info to offer on other game playing programs
>I'd like to hear that as well. I'm more a fan of game playing programs and AI
>methods in general than only chess.
>
>One last thing I thought about was endgame tablebases. Are these available for
>checkers or other games? It seems like it might be both faster and smaller to
>generate the tablebases for checkers, but I'm not totally sure on that. There
>are fewer pieces on the board and fewer squares of the board that are in use, so
>it seems like endgame tablebases might play a more significant role if they were
>created for checkers.
>
>Thanks for your info.
>
>Russell



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