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Subject: Re: Won or lost?

Author: Manfred Rosenboom

Date: 01:39:13 05/04/02

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Hi Ed,

>What do your engines say, especially those with table bases.

This position seems to be lost.
Here is the analysis of Yace 0.99.56 with all 3 and 4 men EGTBs installed:

Yace:
D1  00:00  -1.79   Ne3xd5 Ke5xd5
D1  00:00  -1.62   Ne3f5
D2  00:00  -1.61   Ne3f5 h6h5
D3  00:00  -1.64   Ne3f5 h6h5 Nf5d4
D3+  00:00  -1.62   Kg3f2 Bd5e4
D3  00:00  -1.54   Kg3f2 Ke5e4 Kf2e2
D4  00:00  -1.57   Kg3f2 Ke5e4 Kf2e2 Ke4e5
D5  00:00  -1.50   Kg3f2 Bd5f7 Kf2e2 h6h5 Ke2f3 h5xg4 Kf3xg4
D5+  00:00  -1.46   Ne3xd5 Ke5xd5 Kg3f3 Kd5c5 Kf3e3 Kc5c6 Ke3f3
D5  00:00  -1.39   Ne3xd5 Ke5xd5 Kg3f3 Kd5d6 Kf3e4 Kd6e6 Ke4d4
D6  00:00  -1.24   Ne3xd5 Ke5xd5 Kg3f3 Kd5d6 Kf3e4 Kd6c5 Ke4e5 Kc5c6
D7  00:00  -1.22   Ne3xd5 Ke5xd5 Kg3f3 Kd5d6 Kf3e4 Kd6c5 Ke4e5 Kc5c6 Ke5d4 Kc6b5
Kd4d5
D8+  00:00  -0.72   Ne3xd5 Ke5xd5 Kg3f3 Kd5d6 Kf3e4 Kd6c5 Ke4f5 Kc5d5 Kf5g6 h6h5
g4xh5
D8  00:00  -0.07   Ne3xd5 Ke5xd5 Kg3f3 Kd5d6 Kf3e4 Kd6c5 Ke4e3 Kc5c6 Ke3d4 Kc6d6
Kd4e4 Kd6c5 Ke4e3 Kc5d6
D9  00:00  -0.13   Ne3xd5 Ke5xd5 Kg3f3 Kd5d6 Kf3e4 Kd6e7 Ke4d4 Ke7e6 Kd4xc4
Ke6e5 Kc4c5
D10  00:00  -0.06   Ne3xd5 Ke5xd5 Kg3f3 Kd5e5 Kf3e3 Ke5f6 Ke3e4 Kf6g6 Ke4d4 h6h5
g4xh5 Kg6xh5
D11  00:00  -0.13   Ne3xd5 Ke5xd5 Kg3f3 Kd5e6 Kf3e4 Ke6f6 Ke4e3 Kf6f7 Ke3d4 h6h5
g4xh5 Kf7g7 Kd4xc4 Kg7h7 h5h6 Kh7xh6 Kc4d4 Kh6h5 Kd4e4 g5g4
D12  00:00  -0.51   Ne3xd5 Ke5xd5 Kg3f3 Kd5e6 Kf3e4 Ke6f6 Ke4e3 Kf6g6 Ke3d4 h6h5
g4xh5 Kg6xh5 Kd4xc4 g5g4
D13-  00:00  -0.91   Ne3xd5 Ke5xd5 Kg3f3 Kd5e6 Kf3e4 Ke6f6 Ke4d4 h6h5 g4xh5 g5g4
Kd4xc4 g4g3 h5h6 g3g2 h6h7 Kf6g7 h7h8R g2g1Q Kc4d5
D13  00:00  -1.03   Ne3xd5 Ke5xd5 Kg3f3 Kd5e6 Kf3e4 Ke6f6 Ke4e3 Kf6g6 Ke3d4 h6h5
g4xh5 Kg6xh5 Kd4xc4 g5g4 Kc4d4 g4g3 Kd4e3 Kh5g4 c3c4 g3g2 Ke3f2
D14-  00:00  -1.43   Ne3xd5 Ke5xd5 Kg3f3 Kd5e6 Kf3e4 Ke6f6 Ke4d4 h6h5 g4xh5 g5g4
Kd4d5 g4g3 h5h6 g3g2 h6h7 Kf6g7 h7h8R g2g1Q Kd5xc4
D14  00:00  -2.00   Ne3xd5 Ke5xd5 Kg3f3 Kd5e6 Kf3e4 Ke6f6 Ke4d4 h6h5 g4xh5 g5g4
h5h6 Kf6g6 h6h7 Kg6xh7 Kd4e3 Kh7g6 Ke3f4 Kg6h5 Kf4g3 Kh5g5
D15  00:01  -2.12   Ne3xd5 Ke5xd5 Kg3f3 Kd5e6 Kf3e4 Ke6f6 Ke4d4 h6h5 g4xh5 g5g4
h5h6 Kf6g6 h6h7 Kg6xh7 Kd4e3 Kh7g6 Ke3f4 Kg6h5 Kf4g3 Kh5g5 Kg3h2
D16  00:01  -2.40   Ne3xd5 Ke5xd5 Kg3f3 Kd5e6 Kf3e4 Ke6f6 Ke4d4 h6h5 g4xh5 g5g4
h5h6 Kf6g6 h6h7 Kg6xh7 Kd4e3 Kh7g6 Ke3f4 Kg6h5 Kf4g3 Kh5g5 Kg3g2 Kg5f4 Kg2f2
g4g3 Kf2g1 Kf4e4 Kg1g2 Ke4d3
D16+  00:02  -2.39   Kg3f2 Ke5e4
D16-  00:02  -2.40   Kg3f2 Ke5e4 Ne3xd5 Ke4xd5 Kf2f3 Kd5e6 Kf3e4 Ke6f6 Ke4d4
h6h5 g4xh5 g5g4 h5h6 Kf6g6 h6h7 Kg6xh7 Kd4e3 Kh7g6 Ke3f4 Kg6h5 Kf4g3 Kh5g5 Kg3g2
Kg5f4 Kg2f2 g4g3 Kf2g1 Kf4e4 Kg1g2 Ke4d3
D16  00:03  -2.40   Ne3xd5 Ke5xd5 Kg3f3 Kd5e6 Kf3e4 Ke6f6 Ke4d4 h6h5 g4xh5 g5g4
h5h6 Kf6g6 h6h7 Kg6xh7 Kd4e3 Kh7g6 Ke3f4 Kg6h5 Kf4g3 Kh5g5 Kg3g2 Kg5f4 Kg2f2
g4g3 Kf2g1 Kf4e4 Kg1g2 Ke4d3
D17  00:05  -2.23   Ne3xd5 Ke5xd5 Kg3f3 Kd5e6 Kf3e4 Ke6f6 Ke4d4 h6h5 g4xh5 g5g4
h5h6 Kf6g6 h6h7 Kg6xh7 Kd4e3 Kh7g6 Ke3f4 Kg6h5 Kf4e3 Kh5h4 Ke3f2 g4g3 Kf2g2
Kh4g4 Kg2f1 Kg4f4 Kf1e2 Kf4g4 Ke2f1 Kg4f4 Kf1e2 Kf4g4 Ke2f1
D18  00:05  -2.48   Ne3xd5 Ke5xd5 Kg3f3 Kd5e6 Kf3e4 Ke6f6 Ke4d4 h6h5 g4xh5 g5g4
h5h6 Kf6g6 h6h7 Kg6xh7 Kd4e3 Kh7g6 Ke3f4 Kg6h5 Kf4e3 Kh5h4 Ke3f2 g4g3 Kf2g2
D18+  00:07  -2.47   Kg3f2 Ke5e4
D18-  00:08  -2.48   Kg3f2 Ke5e4 Ne3xd5 Ke4xd5 Kf2f3 Kd5e6 Kf3e4 Ke6f6 Ke4d4
h6h5 g4xh5 g5g4 h5h6 Kf6g6 h6h7 Kg6xh7 Kd4e3 Kh7g6 Ke3f4 Kg6h5 Kf4e3 Kh5g6 Ke3f4
Kg6h5 Kf4e3 Kh5g6
D18  00:10  -2.48   Ne3xd5 Ke5xd5 Kg3f3 Kd5e6 Kf3e4 Ke6f6 Ke4d4 h6h5 g4xh5 g5g4
h5h6 Kf6g6 h6h7 Kg6xh7 Kd4e3 Kh7g6 Ke3f4 Kg6h5 Kf4e3 Kh5h4 Ke3f2 g4g3 Kf2g2
D19-  00:10  -2.88   Ne3xd5 Ke5xd5 Kg3f3 Kd5e6 Kf3e4 Ke6f6 Ke4d4 h6h5 g4xh5 g5g4
Kd4xc4 g4g3 h5h6 g3g2 Kc4c5
D19  00:10  -3.85   Ne3xd5 Ke5xd5 Kg3f3 Kd5e6 Kf3e4 Ke6f6 Ke4d4 h6h5 g4xh5 g5g4
Kd4d5 g4g3 h5h6 g3g2 h6h7 Kf6g7 Kd5e4
D19+  00:11  -3.84   Kg3f2 Ke5e4
D19  00:18  -3.50   Kg3f2 Ke5e4 Ne3f5 Ke4d3 Nf5e3 Bd5e6 Kf2f3 Kd3xc3 Kf3e4 Be6f7
Ke4e5 Kc3d3 Ne3d1 c4c3 Nd1f2 Kd3e2 Nf2e4 c3c2 Ne4c3 Ke2d3
D19+  00:24  -3.49   Ne3c2 Ke5e4
D19-  00:24  -3.50   Ne3c2 Ke5e4 Nc2b4 Bd5b7 Kg3f2 Ke4f4 Kf2e2
D19  00:24  -3.50   Kg3f2 Ke5e4 Ne3f5 Ke4d3 Nf5e3 Bd5e6 Kf2f3 Kd3xc3 Kf3e4 Be6f7
Ke4e5 Kc3d3 Ne3d1 c4c3 Nd1f2 Kd3e2 Nf2e4 c3c2 Ne4c3 Ke2d3
D19+  00:26  -3.49   Ne3d1 Ke5e4 Nd1b2 Ke4e3 Nb2a4 Ke3d2 Kg3f2 Bd5c6 Na4c5
Kd2xc3 Kf2e3 Kc3c2
D19  00:28  -3.48   Ne3d1 Ke5e4 Nd1b2 Ke4e3 Nb2a4 Ke3d3 Kg3f2
D20  00:41  -3.35   Ne3d1 Ke5e4 Nd1b2 Bd5e6 Nb2a4 Ke4e3
D21-  00:50  -3.75   Ne3d1 Ke5e4 Nd1b2 Ke4e3 Nb2a4 Ke3d3 Kg3f2 Bd5c6 Na4c5
Kd3xc3 Kf2g3 Kc3d2 Kg3f2
D21  00:53  -3.75   Ne3d1 Ke5e4
D21+  00:59  -3.74   Kg3f2 Ke5e4
D21  01:18  -3.71   Kg3f2 Ke5e4 Kf2e2 Bd5e6 Ke2d2 Ke4f4 Ne3g2 Kf4xg4 Kd2e3 Be6d5
Ng2e1 h6h5 Ne1c2 h5h4 Ke3d4 Kg4f4 Nc2e3 Bd5e6 Ne3g2 Kf4g3 Ng2e3 g5g4 Kd4e5
D22  01:54  -3.75   Kg3f2 Ke5e4 Kf2e2 Bd5e6 Ke2d2 Ke4f4 Kd2e2 Be6xg4 Ke2f2 Bg4e6
Ne3c2 h6h5 Nc2d4 Be6f5 Nd4e2 Kf4e5
D23  03:14  -3.82   Kg3f2 Ke5e4 Kf2e2 Bd5e6 Ke2d2 Ke4f4 Kd2e2 Be6xg4 Ke2f2 Bg4e6
Ne3c2 h6h5 Nc2d4 Be6f5 Nd4e2 Kf4e5 Ne2d4 h5h4 Nd4f3 Ke5f4 Nf3d4 g5g4 Kf2g2 Bf5e4
Kg2f2
D24  05:27  -3.93   Kg3f2 Ke5e4 Kf2e2 Bd5e6 Ke2d2 Ke4f4 Kd2e2 Be6xg4 Ke2f2 Bg4e6
Ne3c2 g5g4 Nc2d4 g4g3 Kf2g2 Be6g4 Nd4b5 h6h5 Nb5c7 Bg4f3 Kg2h3 g3g2 Kh3h2 h5h4
Nc7e6
D25  07:14  -3.95   Kg3f2 Ke5e4 Kf2e2 Bd5e6 Ke2d2 Ke4f4 Kd2e2 Be6xg4 Ke2f2 Bg4e6
Ne3c2 h6h5 Nc2d4 Be6f7 Nd4e2 Kf4e4 Ne2d4 h5h4 Nd4f3 Ke4f4 Nf3g1 Bf7e6 Ng1e2




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