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Subject: Re: Won or lost? Hiarcs 8 results

Author: Vincent Lejeune

Date: 01:44:26 05/04/02

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on my celeron@875, 128 MB hash, all 3-4-5 EGTB
White seems to be totally lost (french notation)

Nouvelle partie
8/8/7p/3bk1p1/2p3P1/2P1N1K1/8/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Hiarcs 8:
...
1.Cxd5 Rxd5 2.Rf3 Re6 3.Re4 Rf6 4.Rd4 h5 5.gxh5 g4 6.Re3 Rg5 7.Rf2 Rxh5
  -+  (-2.09)   Profondeur: 10/22   00:00:00  20kN, tb=30
1.Rf2 Re4 2.Cxd5 Rxd5 3.Re3 Re5 4.Rf3 Rd5
  -+  (-2.06)   Profondeur: 10/22   00:00:01  183kN, tb=99
1.Rf2 Re4 2.Cxd5 Rxd5 3.Re3 Re5 4.Rf3 Rd5
  -+  (-2.06)   Profondeur: 11/23   00:00:03  416kN, tb=191
1.Rf2 Re4 2.Cxd5 Rxd5 3.Rf3 Re6
  -+  (-2.09)   Profondeur: 12/24   00:00:09  1018kN, tb=580
1.Rf2 Re4 2.Cxd5 Rxd5 3.Rf3 Re6
  -+  (-2.09)   Profondeur: 13/27   00:00:23  2373kN, tb=1806
1.Cxd5 Rxd5
  -+  (-1.82)   Profondeur: 13/27   00:00:24  2393kN, tb=1979
1.Cxd5 Rxd5 2.Rf3 Re6 3.Re4 Rf6 4.Rd4 h5 5.gxh5 g4 6.Re3 Rg5 7.h6 Rxh6 8.Rf4
  -+  (-1.80)   Profondeur: 13/27   00:00:25  2404kN, tb=2116
1.Cxd5 Rxd5 2.Rf3
  -+  (-1.80)   Profondeur: 14/27   00:00:27  2623kN, tb=2256
1.Cxd5 Rxd5
  -+  (-2.09)   Profondeur: 15/33   00:00:32  3127kN, tb=2602
1.Cxd5 Rxd5 2.Rf3 Re6 3.Re2 Rf6 4.Rf2 Rg6 5.Re3 h5 6.Rf2 hxg4 7.Rg2 g3 8.Rxg3
Rf5
  -+  (-3.58)   Profondeur: 15/33   00:00:35  3204kN, tb=3285
1.Cxd5 Rxd5
  -+  (-3.83)   Profondeur: 16/33   00:01:52  10695kN, tb=9707
1.Cxd5 Rxd5 2.Rf3 Re6 3.Re2 Rf6 4.Rf2 Rg6 5.Re3 h5 6.Rf3 hxg4+ 7.Rf2 g3+ 8.Rg2
g4 9.Rf1 Rf5
  -+  (-5.25)   Profondeur: 16/33   00:01:55  10818kN, tb=10544
1.Rf2 Re4 2.Cf5 Rd3 3.Cxh6 Rxc3 4.Re3 Rb2 5.Cf5 Fe6 6.Re2 c3 7.Ce3
  -+  (-4.02)   Profondeur: 16/36   00:06:43  38652kN, tb=40624
1.Cc2 Re4 2.Cb4 Fg8 3.Rf2 Rf4 4.Cc2 Rxg4 5.Ce3+ Rf4 6.Cg2+ Re5 7.Rg3 h5 8.Ce3
Fe6
  -+  (-3.91)   Profondeur: 16/36   00:08:58  51295kN, tb=50448


After this, I analyse with the 8-best-moves (used the previous content of
hastables) :

Analysis by Hiarcs 8:

1. -+ (-3.91): 1.Cc2 Re4
2. -+ (-4.02): 1.Cf5 Re4 2.Cxh6 Rd3 3.Rf2 Rxc3
3. -+ (-4.02): 1.Rf2 Re4
4. -+ (-4.11): 1.Cd1 Re4 2.Cb2 Re3 3.Ca4 Rd3 4.Rf2 Fc6 5.Cc5+ Rxc3 6.Re3 Rc2
7.Rd4 c3 8.Rc4 Ff3
5. -+ (-4.23): 1.Cf1 Re4 2.Rf2 Rd3 3.Ce3 Fe6 4.Rf3 Rd2 5.Rf2 Rxc3 6.Re2 Rd4
6. -+ (-5.25): 1.Cxd5 Rxd5
7. -+ (-7.99): 1.Rh3 Re4 2.Cc2 Rd3 3.Cb4+ Rxc3 4.Cxd5+ Rd2 5.Cb6 c3 6.Cc4+ Re2
7.Ca5 c2 8.Cb3 Rd1 9.Cd4 c1D 10.Cf5 Dc3+ 11.Rg2 Dc6+ 12.Rg3
8. -+ (-6.04): 1.Rh2 Re4 2.Cf1 Rd3 3.Rg1 Rxc3 4.Rf2 Rd3






On May 04, 2002 at 04:15:48, Ed Schröder wrote:

>[d]8/8/7p/3bk1p1/2p3P1/2P1N1K1/8/8 w - - am Nxd5?
>
>This is an end position after 100 moves from an eng-eng match. How to judge the
>result, draw or is white lost after all?
>
>In analysis mode to my surprise 101.Nxd5 failed low giving -5.98 (see below),
>thus losing. Can white draw with for instance 101.Kf2, I wonder.
>
>What do your engines say, especially those with table bases.
>
>Ed
>
>=================================================================
>
>00:00:03.6	-1,10	14	1780001	Nxd5 Kxd5 Kf3 Ke6 Ke3 Kf6 Ke4 Kg6
>00:00:03.0	-0,60	15	2276672	Nxd5 Kxd5 Kf3 Ke6 Ke3 Ke5 Kf3 Kd5
>00:00:03.9	-0,60	16	2606620	Nxd5 Kxd5 Kf3 Kd6 Ke4 Ke7 Kd5 Kf6
>00:00:05.2	-0,03	17	4188958	Nxd5 Kxd5 Kf3 Ke6 Ke3 Ke5 Kf3 Kf6
>00:00:06.0	-0,03	18	5758158	Nxd5 Kxd5 Kf3 Ke6 Ke3 Ke5 Kf3 Kf6
>00:00:10.6	-0,32	19	9055830	Nxd5 Kxd5 Kf3 Ke6 Ke3 Kf6 Ke4 Kg6
>00:00:15.9	-0,32	20	15587442	Nxd5 Kxd5 Kf3 Ke6 Ke3 Kf6 Ke4 Kg6
>00:00:28.2	-5,98	21	29760618	Nxd5 Kxd5 Kf3 Ke5 Ke3 Kf6 Kd4 h5



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