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Subject: Re: Rebel 10 -Anand, last game

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:33:13 07/23/98

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On July 23, 1998 at 15:24:32, Moritz Berger wrote:

>On July 23, 1998 at 12:58:20, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>The major move that Crafty didn't like was the Qh5+ move which traded the knight
>>on h8 for black's remaining two pawns.  Crafty has specific eval code that says
>>if it is down a piece, even with three pawns for it, it isn't going to be happy
>>unless all the pieces are gone except for that one extra piece for the opponent.
>>
>>In every game I have ever played with a computer, being down a piece with a
>>couple of rooks bishops and queens on the board has resulted in the side that
>>is down a piece losing the game.  I've tried to stop this.  Perhaps here Qh5
>>is a good move, but my eval dropped sharply after that.
>>
>>I thought that Rebel would win this after it had such a wall of pawns left on
>>the kingside, but it never seemed to try to get them moving, and a wall of pawns
>>on the 2nd/3rd ranks is not nearly so impressive as that same wall of pawns on
>>the 5th-6th...
>>
>>Interesting decision by Anand to start that Bd6 sequence.
>
>I analyzed the position with Shredder 2 on a PII-400 (96MB+32MB=128MB HT)
>
>Compare the evals for Qh5+ and Qh3, they're pretty close (I let Shredder do
>restricted searches on both moves). So Rebel isn't the only program that
>evalutes Qh5+ as playable:
>
> 9 ->   0:15.21  +1.89   Qh5+ g6 Qh3 cxd4 cxd4 Bxe4 O-O Bf5 Qh4 Rd8 (1.437.551)
> 9 ->   0:12.75  +1.88   Qh3 cxd4 cxd4 Bxe4 O-O Bf5 g4 Be4 Rfe1 (1.277.960)
>
>10 ->   0:33.76  +1.85   Qh5+ g6 Qh3 cxd4 cxd4 O-O-O O-O Rxh8 g3 Qd6 gxf4 Bxe4
>(3.240.704)
>10 ->   0:36.51  +1.81   Qh3 cxd4 cxd4 Bxe4 O-O Bf5 Qh4 Kf8 g3 Kg8 Qxf4
>(3.625.187)
>
>11 ->   2:24.21  +1.61   Qh5+ g6 Nxg6 hxg6 Qxg6+ Qf7 Qxf7+ Kxf7 g3 Bh6 f3 Rd8
>dxc5 Rc8 a4 (13.517.312)
>11 ->   4:31.32  +1.76   Qh3 cxd4 cxd4 O-O-O O-O Rxh8 g3 Bh6 Qxe6+ Qd7 Qb6 Qc6
>Qxc6+ (26.224.808)
>
>12 ->   8:25.45  +1.58   Qh5+ g6 Nxg6 hxg6 Qxg6+ Qf7 Qxf7+ Kxf7 g3 Bh6 f3 Rd8
>dxc5 Be3 (44.284.606)
>12 ->  13:38.96  +1.64   Qh3 cxd4 cxd4 O-O-O O-O Rxh8 g3 Bh6 Qxe6+ Qd7 Qxd7+
>Kxd7 (80.963.520)


True.. but there are other quite playable moves also.  Many programs (Crafty,
Genius, DiepX, CSTal) were suggesting g3 after deeper searches, although Crafty
liked O-O for a couple of seconds early on...

But Qh5 trades away too much, IMHO.



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