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Subject: Re: having to guess if computers are grandmasters

Author: Peter Kappler

Date: 17:40:12 07/23/98

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On July 23, 1998 at 18:42:42, Joe McCarron wrote:

>Just today I told someone about this Anand rebel match.  The fact that rebel is
>a program that most people can buy and it was on a computer that was (or at
>least soon will be)available to your average consumer is what made me so
>interested in the match.  This is exactly what my friend think the match was
>insignificant.  After all, this is a program thats freely available you should
>know what the results will be.  Of course he's right.  Theres no excuse.  The
>reason we don't know is humans are afraid of computers.
>The way I view it Ed and other programers (with the glaring exception of IBM)
>have made there programs freely available.  Programers have told the world that
>they will take on all comers any time any day.  So the blame is on the humans.
>So just like I resolve doubts in favor of Paul Morphy that he would have beat
>Staunton if they played I resolve doubts in favor of computers that they are
>GM's.  *Any* time a *any* GM would want to set us straight they could just play
>rebel in a 20 game match at whatever time controls they want.  I just find it
>hard to believe this has never been done.  Why the mystery and beating around
>the bush???
>-Joe

I'm afraid it all boils down to money.  These GMs earn their living playing
chess, and they aren't going to play a 20 game match against any top micro
unless there is some financial reward.  Can you blame them?

I agree it would be wonderful to see more man vs. machine matches.  The Aegon
tournament was the best example of this, but it is now defunct.  Lets hope that
we see more sponsorship of events like Anand vs. Rebel in the near future.

That being said, I have one gripe with the Anand-Rebel event, and that is that
I'm not interested in watching blitz games, or even G/15.  It's crystal clear to
me that the machines play at (or above) a Super-GM level at blitz chess, but
their strength at 40/2 is still difficult to judge, due to the rarity of their
encounters with top human players.

It would be really fun to watch a micro compete in a Super-GM tournament with
Kasparov, Anand, Shirov, Kramnik, Karpov, etc...


--Peter








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