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Subject: Re: what format have the fritz4.fbk ?

Author: Peter Berger

Date: 08:32:27 05/05/02

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On May 05, 2002 at 10:47:51, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:

>On May 05, 2002 at 10:43:56, Peter Berger wrote:
>
>>Well, well ;) - we didn't discuss releasing anything as own work or competing
>>with it in any tournament. I don't think there is any problem hacking or copying
>>whatsoever if it is only for your private basement joy.
>
>Well, I agree with you here. But do you want to go fight it out in court
>with Ed for me? ;)

No, I don't. My sentence was too general and couldn't be defended, although with
some very minor changes I would ( if it was important for me ;) ). More below.

>
>>And for the Gromit and TCB use of Fritz4.fbk ChessBase gave official permission
>>to offer Fritz4.fbk for download at Frank Quisinsky's pages btw. ; I wouldn't be
>>surprised if they gave permission to it being used by other programs, too.
>
>Ok, good to know. (My thing can use FBK books as well)
>

First : you snipped the last sentence of my post which makes a big difference.
That your program can use FBK books doesn't automatically mean you could provide
FBK books from commercial engines as your own or use them in official
tournaments.

But let's go back to Rebel books to not mix it up too much. If you want to use
Rebel books for your own engine that's _very_ easy. You only need to buy Rebel
Tiger11, it comes with the Rebel book. Then you can use Sjeng as WinBoard or UCI
engine under the Chesspartner/Rebel Tiger GUI and _noone_ will  complain at all
if you do it "for your private basement joy". People do similar things all the
time ( Yace plays with Tiger.ctg, Crafty with Fritz.ctg etc., publish their
results, everyone is happy).

Second idea: let's say Sjeng 13.0 comes with a new feature - it can read and use
fbk and mvs books and have its own learning on top. If you offer this program
for download I don't see _any_ problem with copyrights at all either.

But you can't escape the problem that you won't be able to declare one of those
as "Sjeng book" by GCP or offer it for download at your pages without violating
copyrights heavily.

Regards,
Peter



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